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|performer              = [[Prince and the Revolution]]
 
|performer              = [[Prince and the Revolution]]
 
|first released        = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/May 16|16 May 1984]] - [[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] single
 
|first released        = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/May 16|16 May 1984]] - [[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] single
|album(s)                  = [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]]<br>[[Album:_The_Hits_1|The Hits 1]]<br>[[Album:_The_Hits_/_The_B-Sides|The Hits / The B-Sides]]<br>[[Album:_The_Very Best Of Prince|The Very Best Of Prince]]<br>[[Album:_Ultimate|Ultimate]]<br>
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|album(s)                  = [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]]<br>
[[Album:_Prince_4ever|Prince 4ever]]
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[[Album: The_Hits_1|The Hits 1]]<br>
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[[Album: The_Hits_/_The_B-Sides|The Hits / The B-Sides]]<br>
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[[Album: The_Very Best Of Prince|The Very Best Of Prince]]<br>
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[[Album: Ultimate|Ultimate]]<br>
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[[Album: 4Ever|4Ever]]<br>
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[[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'']] <br>
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[[Album: Prince And The Revolution: Live|Prince And The Revolution: Live]]
 
|writer(s)              = [[Prince]] (credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]])
 
|writer(s)              = [[Prince]] (credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]])
 
|producer(s)            = [[Prince]] (credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]])
 
|producer(s)            = [[Prince]] (credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]])
|previous song          = [[When 2 R In Love]]
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|previous song          = [[When Darkness Comes]]
 
|next song              = [[When Eye Lay My Hands On U]]
 
|next song              = [[When Eye Lay My Hands On U]]
|introduction          = '''When Doves Cry''' is the sixth track on [[Prince]]'s sixth album [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]], the first album to be credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]] and, five weeks prior to the album's release, [[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] was released as the album's first single (credited only to [[Prince]]). The track is also featured in the movie [[Film: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]].  
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|introduction          = '''When Doves Cry''' is the sixth track on [[Prince]]’s sixth album [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]], the first album to be credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]] and, five weeks prior to the album’s release, [[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] was released as the album’s first single (credited only to [[Prince]]). The track is also featured in the movie [[Film: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]].  
  
In 1993, the track was included as the first track on [[Prince]]'s first compilation album [[Album: The Hits 1|The Hits 1]] (also included as the first disc of [[Album: The Hits / The B-Sides|The Hits / The B-Sides]]).  
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In 1993, the track was included as the first track on [[Prince]]’s first compilation album [[Album: The Hits 1|The Hits 1]] (also included as the first disc of [[Album: The Hits / The B-Sides|The Hits / The B-Sides]]).
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In 1994, [[Kirk Johnson]] remixed the track at [[Paisley Park Studios]] in Chanhassen, Minnesota, and the remix, while unreleased, was partially included in the [[Purple Medley]] and the [[Kirk J’s B Sides Remix]] medley.
  
 
In 2001, the track was included as the fourth track on the compilation album [[Album: The Very Best Of Prince|The Very Best Of Prince]].  
 
In 2001, the track was included as the fourth track on the compilation album [[Album: The Very Best Of Prince|The Very Best Of Prince]].  
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In 2006, the track was included as the sixth track on the first disc of the compilation album [[Album: Ultimate|Ultimate]].
 
In 2006, the track was included as the sixth track on the first disc of the compilation album [[Album: Ultimate|Ultimate]].
  
 
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Basic tracking took place on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_1|1 March 1984]] at [[Sunset Sound]] in Hollywood, California (some days after [[Traffic Jam]] and two days after [[Love And Sex]]), as the final track recorded for [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]]. Of note is that both the track’s ascending synth-string ending and the extended part as it was played on the [[Purple Rain Tour]] ae both quite reminiscent  of [[Traffic Jam]], recording only days earlier.  
'''Recording process'''
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Initial tracking took place on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_1|1 March 1984]] at [[Sunset Sound]], Hollywood, CA, USA (two days after [[Traffic Jam]] and [[Love And Sex]]), as the final track recorded for [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]]. The track's ascending synth-string ending is almost identical to that of [[Traffic Jam]], recording only three days earlier.  
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It was included as the fifth song on the [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_23|23 March 1984]] configuration of the album (before [[Take Me With U]] was added for the final configuration, compiled on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 14|14 April 1984]]).  
 
It was included as the fifth song on the [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_23|23 March 1984]] configuration of the album (before [[Take Me With U]] was added for the final configuration, compiled on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 14|14 April 1984]]).  
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{{RecordingLine|
 
{{RecordingLine|
 
|date                    = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_1|1 March 1984]]
 
|date                    = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_1|1 March 1984]]
|studio                   = [[Sunset Sound]], Hollywood, CA, USA
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|studio                 = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
|additional info        = Initial tracking
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|additional info        = Basic tracking
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}}
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{{RecordingLine|
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|date                    = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_2|2 March 1984]]
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|studio                  = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info        = Overdubs
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}}
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{{RecordingLine|
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|date                    = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_3|3 March 1984]]
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|studio                  = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info        = Mixing
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}}
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{{RecordingLine|
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|date                    = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_4|4 March 1984]]- [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March_5|5 March 1984]]
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|studio                  = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info        = Edits
 
}}
 
}}
 
|recording personnel    = *[[Prince]] - all vocals and instruments
 
|recording personnel    = *[[Prince]] - all vocals and instruments
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|3= [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]] album<br>
 
|3= [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]] album<br>
 
[[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] single<br>
 
[[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] single<br>
[[Album: His Majesty's Pop Life|His Majesty's Pop Life]] promotional album
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[[Album: His Majesty’s Pop Life|His Majesty’s Pop Life]]
 
|4= Studio
 
|4= Studio
 
|5= a.k.a. '''When Doves Cry (Long Version)''' and '''When Doves Cry (Album Version)'''
 
|5= a.k.a. '''When Doves Cry (Long Version)''' and '''When Doves Cry (Album Version)'''
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}}
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{{Songline|
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|1= '''When Doves Cry'''
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|2= 5:52
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|3= [[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'']] <br>
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|4=
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|5= Remastered 2015
 
}}
 
}}
 
{{Songline|
 
{{Songline|
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|3= [[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] single<br>
 
|3= [[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] single<br>
 
[[Album: Strange Tales From The Rain|Strange Tales From The Rain]] promo<br>
 
[[Album: Strange Tales From The Rain|Strange Tales From The Rain]] promo<br>
[[Single: Let's Go Crazy|Let's Go Crazy]] Back To Back Hits re-issue single<br>
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[[Single: Let’s Go Crazy|Let’s Go Crazy]] Back To Back Hits re-issue single<br>
[[Album:_The_Story So Far...|The Story So Far...]]  promotional album<br>
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[[Album: The_Story So Far...|The Story So Far...]]  promotional album<br>
 
[[Album: The Crown Jewels|The Crown Jewels]] promotional album<br>
 
[[Album: The Crown Jewels|The Crown Jewels]] promotional album<br>
[[Album:_The_Hits_1|The Hits 1]]<br>
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[[Album: The_Hits_1|The Hits 1]] album<br>
[[Album:_The_Hits_/_The_B-Sides|The Hits / The B-Sides]]<br>
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[[Album: The_Hits_/_The_B-Sides|The Hits / The B-Sides]] album<br>
[[Album:_The_Very Best Of Prince|The Very Best Of Prince]]<br>
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[[Album: The_Very Best Of Prince|The Very Best Of Prince]] album<br>
[[Album:_Ultimate|Ultimate]]<br>
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[[Album: Ultimate|Ultimate]] album<br>
[[Album:_Prince_4ever|Prince 4ever]]
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[[Album: 4Ever|4Ever]] album<br>
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[[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'' - Single Edits & B-Sides]]<br>
 
|4= Edit
 
|4= Edit
|5= a.k.a. '''When Doves Cry (Short Version)'''
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|5= a.k.a. '''Short Version''' & ''' 7" Single Edit'''
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}}
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{{Songline|
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|1= '''When Doves Cry'''
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|2= 9:29
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|3= [[Album: Prince And The Revolution: Live|Prince And The Revolution: Live]]
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|4= Live
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|5= [[30_March 1985|30 March 1985, Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY, USA]]
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}}
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{{Songline|
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|1= '''When Doves Cry'''
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|2= 2:46
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|3= [[Album: Sign O’ The Times Deluxe|Sign O’ The Times ''Super Deluxe'']]
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|4= Live
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|5= [[20 June 1987|20 June 1987: Stadion de Galgenwaard, Utrecht, the Netherlands]]
 
}}
 
}}
 
}}
 
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}}
 
}}
 
{{Songline|
 
{{Songline|
|1= '''[[Kirk J's B Sides Remix]] '''
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|1= '''[[Kirk J’s B Sides Remix]] '''
 
|2= 7:00
 
|2= 7:00
 
|3= [[Single: Purple Medley|Purple Medley]] single
 
|3= [[Single: Purple Medley|Purple Medley]] single
 
|4= Edit
 
|4= Edit
|5= See [[Kirk J's B Sides Remix]] for more details
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|5= See [[Kirk J’s B Sides Remix]] for more details
 
}}
 
}}
 
}}
 
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|1= '''When Doves Cry'''
 
|1= '''When Doves Cry'''
 
|2= 8:15
 
|2= 8:15
|3= [[Home Video: Double Live|Prince And The Revolution: Live]] VHS/laserdisc
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|3= [[Home Video: Double Live|Prince And The Revolution: Live]] VHS/laserdisc<br>
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[[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'' – Live at the Carrier Dome (DVD)]]
 
|4= Live
 
|4= Live
 
|5= [[30_March 1985|30 March 1985, Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY]]
 
|5= [[30_March 1985|30 March 1985, Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY]]
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{{Songline|
 
{{Songline|
 
|1= '''When Doves Cry'''
 
|1= '''When Doves Cry'''
|2= 2:42
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|2= 2:52
 
|3= [[Home Video: Lovesexy Live|Lovesexy Live 1]] VHS
 
|3= [[Home Video: Lovesexy Live|Lovesexy Live 1]] VHS
 
|4= Live
 
|4= Live
 
|5= [[09_September 1988|9 September 1988, Westfalenhallen, Dortmund, West Germany]]
 
|5= [[09_September 1988|9 September 1988, Westfalenhallen, Dortmund, West Germany]]
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}}
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{{Songline|
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|1= '''When Doves Cry'''
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|2=  T.B.C.
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|3= [[Album: Sign O’ The Times Deluxe|Sign O’ The Times ''Super Deluxe'']] DVD
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|4= Live
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|5= [[31 December 1987|31 December 1987: Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA]]
 
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|2= Studio
 
|2= Studio
 
|3= Includes bassline, later removed by [[Prince]]
 
|3= Includes bassline, later removed by [[Prince]]
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{{Unreleasedline|
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|1= '''When Doves Cry'''
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|2= Studio
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|3= Instrumental (Edit)
 
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|performed regularly on    = [[Purple Rain Tour]]
 
|performed regularly on    = [[Purple Rain Tour]]
 
* [[Parade Tour]]
 
* [[Parade Tour]]
* [[Sign O' The Times Tour]]<br>
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* [[Sign O’ The Times Tour]]<br>
 
* [[Lovesexy Tour]]<br>
 
* [[Lovesexy Tour]]<br>
 
* [[Nude Tour]]
 
* [[Nude Tour]]
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|trivia                    = When played live on the [[Parade Tour]], '''When Doves Cry''' utilized the (Fairlight CMI) drum beat of [[It]]. It was triggered on stage by a Simmons SDS-6 sequencer.
 
|trivia                    = When played live on the [[Parade Tour]], '''When Doves Cry''' utilized the (Fairlight CMI) drum beat of [[It]]. It was triggered on stage by a Simmons SDS-6 sequencer.
 
|see also                  = [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]] album
 
|see also                  = [[Album: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]] album
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* [[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'']]
 
* [[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] single
 
* [[Single: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] single
 
* [[Video: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] video
 
* [[Video: When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]] video
|references                = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]] ''
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|references                = ''[[Book: The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]]''
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* ''[https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538114623/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 Prince and the Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983 and 1984 (Expanded Edition, paperback), Duane Tudahl (2018)]''
 
|categories                = [[Category:1984]][[Category:Released Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Prince and the Revolution)]][[Category:Recorded 1984]]
 
|categories                = [[Category:1984]][[Category:Released Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Prince and the Revolution)]][[Category:Recorded 1984]]
 
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Revision as of 16:44, 22 September 2020

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When Doves Cry

Purplerain.jpg
from the album Purple Rain
Whendovescry single.jpg
single art for When Doves Cry
Song details
Performer: Prince and the Revolution
First Released: 16 May 1984 - When Doves Cry single
Album(s): Purple Rain

The Hits 1
The Hits / The B-Sides
The Very Best Of Prince
Ultimate
4Ever
Purple Rain Deluxe
Prince And The Revolution: Live

Writer(s): Prince (credited to Prince and the Revolution)
Producer(s): Prince (credited to Prince and the Revolution)
Live Appearances
First and last live appearance:
Performed regularly on tour:
Performed occasionally in shows:

When Doves Cry is the sixth track on Prince’s sixth album Purple Rain, the first album to be credited to Prince and the Revolution and, five weeks prior to the album’s release, When Doves Cry was released as the album’s first single (credited only to Prince). The track is also featured in the movie Purple Rain.

In 1993, the track was included as the first track on Prince’s first compilation album The Hits 1 (also included as the first disc of The Hits / The B-Sides).

In 1994, Kirk Johnson remixed the track at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota, and the remix, while unreleased, was partially included in the Purple Medley and the Kirk J’s B Sides Remix medley.

In 2001, the track was included as the fourth track on the compilation album The Very Best Of Prince.

In 2006, the track was included as the sixth track on the first disc of the compilation album Ultimate.

Basic tracking took place on 1 March 1984 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California (some days after Traffic Jam and two days after Love And Sex), as the final track recorded for Purple Rain. Of note is that both the track’s ascending synth-string ending and the extended part as it was played on the Purple Rain Tour ae both quite reminiscent of Traffic Jam, recording only days earlier.

It was included as the fifth song on the 23 March 1984 configuration of the album (before Take Me With U was added for the final configuration, compiled on 14 April 1984).

The single version of the track was included as the tenth track on the first disc of an early configuration of the compilation album Ultimate before the album was reworked for release.

The track is included here as credited to Prince and the Revolution due to its inclusion on the Prince and the Revolution album Purple Rain, although the single release When Doves Cry was credited only to Prince, and the credits, on both the single and the Purple Rain album, show that Prince is the only performer on the track.


Recording Information
Recording Sessions
Date Studio Additional info
1 March 1984 Sunset Sound,
Hollywood, CA, USA
Basic tracking
2 March 1984 Sunset Sound,
Hollywood, CA, USA
Overdubs
3 March 1984 Sunset Sound,
Hollywood, CA, USA
Mixing
4 March 1984- 5 March 1984 Sunset Sound,
Hollywood, CA, USA
Edits
Recording Personnel
  • Prince - all vocals and instruments

Versions
Released Versions
Title Length Released Version Additional info
When Doves Cry 5:52 Purple Rain album

When Doves Cry single
His Majesty’s Pop Life

Studio a.k.a. When Doves Cry (Long Version) and When Doves Cry (Album Version)
When Doves Cry 5:52 Purple Rain Deluxe
Remastered 2015
When Doves Cry (Edit) 3:49 When Doves Cry single

Strange Tales From The Rain promo
Let’s Go Crazy Back To Back Hits re-issue single
The Story So Far... promotional album
The Crown Jewels promotional album
The Hits 1 album
The Hits / The B-Sides album
The Very Best Of Prince album
Ultimate album
4Ever album
Purple Rain Deluxe - Single Edits & B-Sides

Edit a.k.a. Short Version & 7" Single Edit
When Doves Cry 9:29 Prince And The Revolution: Live Live 30 March 1985, Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY, USA
When Doves Cry 2:46 Sign O’ The Times Super Deluxe Live 20 June 1987: Stadion de Galgenwaard, Utrecht, the Netherlands
Video Versions
Title Length Released Version Additional info
When Doves Cry 5:54 Purple Rain 20th Anniversary DVD Promo video See When Doves Cry video for more details
When Doves Cry 3:49 Promotional release only Promo video (edit) See When Doves Cry video for more details
When Doves Cry 8:15 Prince And The Revolution: Live VHS/laserdisc

Purple Rain Deluxe – Live at the Carrier Dome (DVD)

Live 30 March 1985, Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY
When Doves Cry 2:52 Lovesexy Live 1 VHS Live 9 September 1988, Westfalenhallen, Dortmund, West Germany
When Doves Cry T.B.C. Sign O’ The Times Super Deluxe DVD Live 31 December 1987: Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA
Broadcasts/streaming (only)
Title Length Released Version Additional info
When Doves Cry T.B.C. Live concert radio broadcast Live 22 July 1990, Estadio Vicente Calderón, Madrid, Spain
When Doves Cry 6:04 Delayed concert TV broadcast Live 31 August 1990, Tokyo Dome (東京ドーム), Tokyo, Japan
When Doves Cry T.B.C. Live concert online stream Live 10 May 2015, Baltimore, MN, USA, Royal Farms Arena; sampler set version
Sampled, Referred to, Quoted in...
Title Length Released Version Additional info
Purple Medley 11:03 Purple Medley single Studio medley See Purple Medley for more details
Purple Medley (Edit) 3:14 Purple Medley single Edit See Purple Medley for more details
Kirk J’s B Sides Remix 7:00 Purple Medley single Edit See Kirk J’s B Sides Remix for more details
Unreleased Versions
Title Version Additional Info
When Doves Cry Studio Includes bassline, later removed by Prince
When Doves Cry Studio Instrumental (Edit)
When Doves Cry Remix Remixed version of the track by Kirk Johnson containing new beats and keyboard lines. Remixed in 1994.
 
Additional Information

See also Trivia

  • When played live on the Parade Tour, When Doves Cry utilized the (Fairlight CMI) drum beat of It. It was triggered on stage by a Simmons SDS-6 sequencer.

References
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