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|introduction          = This entry details a planned album for [[The Rebels]], [[Prince]]’s backing band which was named so for the occasion. Nine tracks were recorded during a 12-day recording sessions between 10 and 21 July 1979 at [[Mountain Ears Sound Studio]] in Boulder, Colorado (shortly after [[Prince]] finished work on his second album [[Album: Prince|Prince]]).  
|introduction          = This entry details a planned album for [[The Rebels]], [[Prince]]’s backing band which was named so for the occasion. Nine tracks were recorded during a 12-day recording sessions between 10 and 21 July 1979 at [[Mountain Ears Sound Studio]] in Boulder, Colorado (shortly after [[Prince]] finished work on his second album [[Album: Prince|Prince]]).  


Although [[Dez Dickerson]] has once said he believed The Rebels' "album" was never more than an incentive for the band rather than a real album idea, it is still probable that the sessions were intended to produce an album for the group. [[Matt Fink]] said in an interview that [[Prince]] told his band: “We’re going to Colorado and I want to make another record with you guys. I’m going to create a separate group.” [[Prince]]’s cousin, [[Charles Smith|Charles 'Chazz' Smith]] (who was still close to some band members at that time), said that [[Prince]] went as far as envisioning the cover of the album which was going to be "the silhouettes of the faces of the group, just the shapes of their heads and no faces, so no one could see who it was". In a later interview, [[Dez Dickerson]] also confirmed that there were talks about a cover for the album.  
Although [[Dez Dickerson]] has once said he believed The Rebels’ "album" was never more than an incentive for the band rather than a real album idea, it is still probable that the sessions were intended to produce an album for the group. [[Matt Fink]] said in an interview that [[Prince]] told his band: “We’re going to Colorado and I want to make another record with you guys. I’m going to create a separate group.” [[Prince]]’s cousin, [[Charles Smith|Charles 'Chazz' Smith]] (who was still close to some band members at that time), said that [[Prince]] went as far as envisioning the cover of the album which was going to be "the silhouettes of the faces of the group, just the shapes of their heads and no faces, so no one could see who it was". In a later interview, [[Dez Dickerson]] also confirmed that there were talks about a cover for the album.  


With The Rebels project, [[Prince]] eased some tension by allowing [[Andre Cymone]] and [[Dez Dickerson]] to write and record their own songs. The studio in Boulder, Colorado, was chosen by Perry Jones (who worked for [[Bob Cavallo]] and [[Joe Ruffalo]] at that time), because he had connections with the studio management. The sessions were engineered by [[Bob Mockler]], whom [[Prince]] met during the recording of his [[Album: Prince|second album]].  
With '''The Rebels''' project, [[Prince]] eased some tension by allowing [[Andre Cymone]] and [[Dez Dickerson]] to write and record their own songs. The studio in Boulder, Colorado, was chosen by Perry Jones (who worked for [[Bob Cavallo]] and [[Joe Ruffalo]] at that time), because he had connections with the studio management. The sessions were engineered by [[Bob Mockler]], whom [[Prince]] met during the recording of his [[Album: Prince|second album]].  


Nine songs including two instrumentals were recorded during these sessions: [[Dez Dickerson]] wrote [[Too Long]] and [[Disco Away]] on which he also sings lead, and one of the [[Instrumental-Rebels 1|untitled instrumentals]]. [[Andre Cymone]] wrote [[Thrill You Or Kill You]], which was already demoed by him 5 months earlier and the other [[Instrumental-Rebels 2|instrumental]]. [[Prince]] contributed four songs for the project, three of which were sung by [[Gayle Chapman]] ([[U|You]], [[If I Love U 2 Nite|If I Love You Tonight]] and [[The Loser]]). The fourth song, [[Hard To Get]] was sung by him and [[Andre Cymone]]. Most of [[The Rebels]]' music was more rock and guitar-oriented than [[Prince]]’s first two albums, showing [[Dez Dickerson]]’s influence.
Nine songs including two instrumentals were recorded during these sessions: [[Dez Dickerson]] wrote [[Too Long]] and [[Disco Away]] on which he also sings lead, and one of the [[Instrumental-Rebels 1|untitled instrumentals]]. [[Andre Cymone]] wrote [[Thrill You Or Kill You]], which was already demoed by him 5 months earlier and the other [[Instrumental-Rebels 2|instrumental]]. [[Prince]] contributed four songs for the project, three of which were sung by [[Gayle Chapman]] ([[U|You]], [[If I Love U 2 Nite|If I Love You Tonight]] and [[The Loser]]). The fourth song, [[Hard To Get]], was sung by him and [[Andre Cymone]]. Most of [[The Rebels]]’ music was more rock and guitar-oriented than [[Prince]]’s first two albums, showing [[Dez Dickerson]]’s influence.


None of the songs recorded during these sessions has ever been released under the name [[The Rebels]] and the band never made any appearance under that name. According to [[Matt Fink]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Records Warner Bros.] didn’t want to release [[The Rebels]] album fearing that a release "under another name would confuse people". The album was shelved but some of the song were re-recorded in the following years.
None of the songs recorded during these sessions has ever been released under the name [[The Rebels]] and the band never made any appearance under that name. According to [[Matt Fink]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Records Warner Bros.] didn’t want to release [[The Rebels]] album fearing that a release "under another name would confuse people". The album was shelved but some of the song were re-recorded in the following years.


[[U|You]] was later re-recorded and released (as [[U]]) by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Abdul Paula Abdul] on her 1991 album [[Album: Spellbound|Spellbound]]. [[If I Love U 2 Nite|If I Love You Tonight]] was later re-recorded and released (as [[If I Love U 2 Nite]] by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mica_Paris Mica Paris] on her album [[Album: Contribution|Contribution]] (and later by [[Mayte]] as [[If I Love U 2 Nite|If ]][[File:EyeBlue.png|link=If I Love U 2 Nite]][[If I Love U 2 Nite| Love U 2night]] on her album [[Album: Child Of The Sun|Child Of The Sun]]).  
[[If I Love U 2 Nite|If I Love You Tonight]] was later re-recorded and released (as [[If I Love U 2 Nite]] by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mica_Paris Mica Paris] on her album [[Album: Contribution|Contribution]] in 1990 (and later by [[Mayte]] as [[If I Love U 2 Nite|If ]][[File:EyeBlue.png|link=If I Love U 2 Nite]][[If I Love U 2 Nite| Love U 2night]] on her album [[Album: Child Of The Sun|Child Of The Sun]]). [[U|You]] was later re-recorded and released (as [[U]]) by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Abdul Paula Abdul] on her 1991 album [[Album: Spellbound|Spellbound]].
[[Hard To Get]] was re-recorded by [[Prince]] alone in 1981, but the song remains unreleased. The same goes for [[Too Long]], [[Disco Away]], [[Thrill You Or Kill You]], [[The Loser]] and the instrumentals [[Instrumental-Rebels 1|by Dickerson]] and [[Instrumental-Rebels 2|by Cymone]].
 
[[Hard To Get]] was re-recorded by [[Prince]] alone in 1981, but the song remains unreleased. The same goes for [[Too Long]], [[Disco Away]], [[Thrill You Or Kill You]], [[The Loser]] and the instrumentals [[Instrumental-Rebels 1|by Dickerson]] and [[Instrumental-Rebels 2|by Cymone]].


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1978: Untitled Suzie Stone album ◄ Unreleased Albums
(Prince) 		Unreleased Albums
(Related Artists) 		► 1982: Untitled The Hookers album
Untitled The Rebels album

Album details

Intended Release Date: 1979
Label(s): Warner Bros.
Studio(s): Mountain Ears Sound Studio, Boulder, CO, USA

See also

   
This entry details a planned album for The Rebels, Prince’s backing band which was named so for the occasion. Nine tracks were recorded during a 12-day recording sessions between 10 and 21 July 1979 at Mountain Ears Sound Studio in Boulder, Colorado (shortly after Prince finished work on his second album Prince).

Although Dez Dickerson has once said he believed The Rebels’ "album" was never more than an incentive for the band rather than a real album idea, it is still probable that the sessions were intended to produce an album for the group. Matt Fink said in an interview that Prince told his band: “We’re going to Colorado and I want to make another record with you guys. I’m going to create a separate group.” Prince’s cousin, Charles 'Chazz' Smith (who was still close to some band members at that time), said that Prince went as far as envisioning the cover of the album which was going to be "the silhouettes of the faces of the group, just the shapes of their heads and no faces, so no one could see who it was". In a later interview, Dez Dickerson also confirmed that there were talks about a cover for the album.

With The Rebels project, Prince eased some tension by allowing Andre Cymone and Dez Dickerson to write and record their own songs. The studio in Boulder, Colorado, was chosen by Perry Jones (who worked for Bob Cavallo and Joe Ruffalo at that time), because he had connections with the studio management. The sessions were engineered by Bob Mockler, whom Prince met during the recording of his second album.

Nine songs including two instrumentals were recorded during these sessions: Dez Dickerson wrote Too Long and Disco Away on which he also sings lead, and one of the untitled instrumentals. Andre Cymone wrote Thrill You Or Kill You, which was already demoed by him 5 months earlier and the other instrumental. Prince contributed four songs for the project, three of which were sung by Gayle Chapman (You, If I Love You Tonight and The Loser). The fourth song, Hard To Get, was sung by him and Andre Cymone. Most of The Rebels’ music was more rock and guitar-oriented than Prince’s first two albums, showing Dez Dickerson’s influence.

None of the songs recorded during these sessions has ever been released under the name The Rebels and the band never made any appearance under that name. According to Matt Fink, Warner Bros. didn’t want to release The Rebels album fearing that a release "under another name would confuse people". The album was shelved but some of the song were re-recorded in the following years.

If I Love You Tonight was later re-recorded and released (as If I Love U 2 Nite by Mica Paris on her album Contribution in 1990 (and later by Mayte as If Love U 2night on her album Child Of The Sun). You was later re-recorded and released (as U) by Paula Abdul on her 1991 album Spellbound.

Hard To Get was re-recorded by Prince alone in 1981, but the song remains unreleased. The same goes for Too Long, Disco Away, Thrill You Or Kill You, The Loser and the instrumentals by Dickerson and by Cymone.



Track listing
LP

The specific sequence of tracks is unknown, but tracks known to have been included are:

All tracks written by Prince (assumed) except where noted
1 Written by Dez Dickerson
2 Written by Andre Cymone



Personnel
Musicians


Production


 
Additional Information
Trivia
  • The song Let’s Work was recorded during these sessions as Let’s Rock. The song was named after a dance called "The Rock" Prince had seen in clubs during the summer of 1979, and Prince wanted to release it as a single immediately after recording. Warner Bros. declined, and while Prince liked the track, he felt it needed to be renamed when released to avoid it seeming dated. Let’s Work was re-recorded during sessions for the Album: Controversy album in 1981.
References
  • Books:

The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)

Prince 1958-2016: Stories from the Purple Underground, Mobeen Azhar (2016)

Prince: The Man and His Music, Matt Thorne (2016)

  • Press:

Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful: Dr. Fink Talks 2 Beautiful Nights by K Nicola Dyes (beautifulnightschitown.blogspot.com: 24 March 2013)

1978
Untitled Suzie Stone album 		Unreleased Albums
(Prince) 		Unreleased Albums
(Related Artists) 		1982
Untitled The Hookers album
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