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|song name                = If The Kid Can't Make You Come
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|song name                = If The Kid Can’t Make You Come
 
|single image              = [[File:Icecreamcastles album.jpg|100px|link=Album: Ice Cream Castle]] <br><small> from the album [[Album: Ice Cream Castle|Ice Cream Castle]]</small>
 
|single image              = [[File:Icecreamcastles album.jpg|100px|link=Album: Ice Cream Castle]] <br><small> from the album [[Album: Ice Cream Castle|Ice Cream Castle]]</small>
 
|performer                = [[The Time]]
 
|performer                = [[The Time]]
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|writer(s)                = [[Prince]] (as [[Jamie Starr]], credited to [[Morris Day]])
 
|writer(s)                = [[Prince]] (as [[Jamie Starr]], credited to [[Morris Day]])
 
|producer(s)              = [[Prince]] (credited to [[Morris Day]] and [[The Starr Company]])
 
|producer(s)              = [[Prince]] (credited to [[Morris Day]] and [[The Starr Company]])
|previous song            = [[If It'll Make U Happy]]
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|previous song            = [[If It’ll Make U Happy]]
 
|next song                = [[If U Let Me Undress U]]
 
|next song                = [[If U Let Me Undress U]]
|introduction              = '''If The Kid Can't Make You Come''' is the fifth track on [[The Time]]'s third album [[Album: Ice Cream Castle|Ice Cream Castle]]. '''If The Kid Can't Make You Come''' was written by [[Prince]] under the pseudonym [[Jamie Starr]], but was credited on the album to [[Morris Day]]. It was co-produced by [[Morris Day]] and [[Prince]] under the name [[The Starr Company]]. [[Prince]] plays most instruments on the track.
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|introduction              = '''If The Kid Can’t Make You Come''' is the fifth track on [[The Time]]’s third album [[Album: Ice Cream Castle|Ice Cream Castle]]. '''If The Kid Can’t Make You Come''' was written by [[Prince]] under the pseudonym [[Jamie Starr]], but was credited on the album to [[Morris Day]]. It was co-produced by [[Morris Day]] and [[Prince]] under the name [[The Starr Company]]. [[Prince]] plays most instruments on the track.
  
Basic tracking took place on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 16|16 April 1983]] at [[Sunset Sound]], Hollywood, California (two days after basic tracking of [[Chili Sauce]] (as [[Chili Sauce|Proposition 17]]), the day before [[Chocolate]]). While reflecting about the song's history on [http://www.facebook.com/JesseJohnsonfan/posts/10152293702581224 Facebook] in 2014, [[Jesse Johnson]] stated:<blockquote> ''"[[Morris Day|Morris]] who is a very, very gifted drummer went in sat down to play "'''Kid'''", but he kept speeding up [[Prince]] tried it, he kept speeding up too! So we got this brilliant idea, when looking back at it now it's funny the [[Prince|P]] and I thought this was a really good resolution. [[Morris Day|Morris]] out of the three of us was the only one that had a drink now and again, or let me put it clearer, [[Morris Day|Morris]] was the only one that knew how to drink. [[Prince|P]] & I were real amateurs, honestly ... [[Prince]] & I drank a glass of wine or my case a glass of WHINE! (ohh my head the room is spinning, I don't feel well, etc, etc) will I'm playing the DRUMS on "'''The Kid'''" and of course all guitars."''</blockquote>
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Basic tracking (initially listed as '''If The Boy Can’t Make You Come''') took place on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 16|16 April 1983]] at [[Sunset Sound]] in Hollywood, California (two days after basic tracking of [[Chili Sauce]] (as [[Chili Sauce|Proposition 17]]), the day before [[Chocolate]]). While reflecting about the song’s history on [http://www.facebook.com/JesseJohnsonfan/posts/10152293702581224 Facebook] in 2014, [[Jesse Johnson]] stated:<blockquote> ''"[[Morris Day|Morris]] who is a very, very gifted drummer went in sat down to play "'''Kid'''", but he kept speeding up [[Prince]] tried it, he kept speeding up too! So we got this brilliant idea, when looking back at it now it’s funny the [[Prince|P]] and I thought this was a really good resolution. [[Morris Day|Morris]] out of the three of us was the only one that had a drink now and again, or let me put it clearer, [[Morris Day|Morris]] was the only one that knew how to drink. [[Prince|P]] & I were real amateurs, honestly ... [[Prince]] & I drank a glass of wine or my case a glass of WHINE! (ohh my head the room is spinning, I don’t feel well, etc, etc) will I’m playing the DRUMS on "'''The Kid'''" and of course all guitars."''</blockquote>
  
"The Kid" mentioned in the song's title is a deliberate reference to [[Prince]]'s character "The Kid" in the [[Film: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]] movie, in which [[The Time]] appeared as The Kid's nemesis.
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"The Kid" mentioned in the song’s title is a deliberate reference to [[Prince]]’s character "The Kid" in the [[Film: Purple Rain|Purple Rain]] movie, in which [[The Time]] appeared as The Kid’s nemesis.
 
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 16|16 April 1983]]
 
|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 16|16 April 1983]]
|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]], Hollywood, CA, USA
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 2,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
|additional info          = Basic tracking
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|additional info          = Tracking
 
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 17|17 April 1983]];
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 17|17 April 1983]]
[[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 20|20 April 1983]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 2,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]], Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = overdubs
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 20|20 April 1983]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
 
|additional info          = Mixing, overdubs, editing
 
|additional info          = Mixing, overdubs, editing
 
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*[[Jill Jones]] - background vocals (uncredited)
 
*[[Jill Jones]] - background vocals (uncredited)
 
*Sharon Hughes - dialogue
 
*Sharon Hughes - dialogue
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*Richard McKernan - assistant engineer
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*[[Peggy McCreary]] -  engineer
 
|released versions        =
 
|released versions        =
 
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{{Songline|
|1= '''If The Kid Can't Make You Come'''
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|1= '''If The Kid Can’t Make You Come'''
 
|2= 7:33
 
|2= 7:33
 
|3= [[Album: Ice Cream Castle|Ice Cream Castle]]
 
|3= [[Album: Ice Cream Castle|Ice Cream Castle]]
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|performed occasionally in = none
 
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|trivia                    = For the hi-hat this song uses the LinnDrum, the successor of the Linn LM-1 usually utilized by [[Prince]],
 
|see also                  = [[Album: Ice Cream Castle|Ice Cream Castle]] album
 
|see also                  = [[Album: Ice Cream Castle|Ice Cream Castle]] album
 
*[[The Time]]
 
*[[The Time]]
 
|references                = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]]''
 
|references                = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]]''
* ''[https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511110969&sr=8-1&keywords=duane+tudahl+prince&dpID=51jJZJCGZoL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch Prince and the Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983 and 1984, Duane Tudahl (2017)]''
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* ''[https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538114623/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 Prince and the Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983 and 1984 (Expanded Edition, paperback), Duane Tudahl (2018)]''
 
*https://www.facebook.com/JesseJohnsonfan/posts/10152293702581224
 
*https://www.facebook.com/JesseJohnsonfan/posts/10152293702581224
 
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Revision as of 08:42, 15 September 2021

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If The Kid Can’t Make You Come

Icecreamcastles album.jpg
from the album Ice Cream Castle
Song details
Performer: The Time
First Released: 9 July 1984 - Ice Cream Castle album
Album(s): Ice Cream Castle
Writer(s): Prince (as Jamie Starr, credited to Morris Day)
Producer(s): Prince (credited to Morris Day and The Starr Company)
Live Appearances
First and last live appearance:
  • This track is not believed to have been performed live by Prince or The Time.
Performed regularly on tour:
  • none
Performed occasionally in shows:
  • none

If The Kid Can’t Make You Come is the fifth track on The Time’s third album Ice Cream Castle. If The Kid Can’t Make You Come was written by Prince under the pseudonym Jamie Starr, but was credited on the album to Morris Day. It was co-produced by Morris Day and Prince under the name The Starr Company. Prince plays most instruments on the track.

Basic tracking (initially listed as If The Boy Can’t Make You Come) took place on 16 April 1983 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California (two days after basic tracking of Chili Sauce (as Proposition 17), the day before Chocolate). While reflecting about the song’s history on Facebook in 2014, Jesse Johnson stated:
"Morris who is a very, very gifted drummer went in sat down to play "Kid", but he kept speeding up Prince tried it, he kept speeding up too! So we got this brilliant idea, when looking back at it now it’s funny the P and I thought this was a really good resolution. Morris out of the three of us was the only one that had a drink now and again, or let me put it clearer, Morris was the only one that knew how to drink. P & I were real amateurs, honestly ... Prince & I drank a glass of wine or my case a glass of WHINE! (ohh my head the room is spinning, I don’t feel well, etc, etc) will I’m playing the DRUMS on "The Kid" and of course all guitars."

"The Kid" mentioned in the song’s title is a deliberate reference to Prince’s character "The Kid" in the Purple Rain movie, in which The Time appeared as The Kid’s nemesis.


Recording Information
Recording Sessions
Date Studio Additional info
16 April 1983 Sunset Sound - Studio 2,
Hollywood, CA, USA
Tracking
17 April 1983 Sunset Sound - Studio 2,
Hollywood, CA, USA
overdubs
20 April 1983 Sunset Sound - Studio 3,
Hollywood, CA, USA
Mixing, overdubs, editing
Recording Personnel
  • Morris Day - lead vocals
  • Prince - vocals and all instruments, except where noted (uncredited)
  • Jesse Johnson - drums (uncredited), vocals and guitar
  • Jill Jones - background vocals (uncredited)
  • Sharon Hughes - dialogue


Versions
Released Versions
Title Length Released Version Additional info
If The Kid Can’t Make You Come 7:33 Ice Cream Castle Studio



 
Additional Information

See also Trivia

  • For the hi-hat this song uses the LinnDrum, the successor of the Linn LM-1 usually utilized by Prince,

References
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