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* ''Prince and the Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983 and 1984'', Duane Tudahl (2017)
 
* ''Prince and the Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983 and 1984'', Duane Tudahl (2017)
 
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|song name                = Our Destiny
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|single image              = [[File:Purplerain_Deluxe.jpg|100px|link=Album: Purple Rain Deluxe]] <br><small> from the album [[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'']]
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|performer                = [[Prince and the Revolution]]
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|first released            = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/May_12|12 May 2017]] - [[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'']] Electric Intercourse (digital single)
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|album(s)                  = [[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'']]<br>
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|writer(s)                = [[Prince]]
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|producer(s)              = [[Prince]]
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|previous song            = [[Others Here With Us]]
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|next song                = [[Overnight, Every Night]]
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|introduction              = '''Our Destiny''' is an unreleased track, initially recorded during [[Prince and the Revolution]]'s concert on [[07_June 1984|7 June 1984]] at [[First Avenue]] in Minneapolis, MN, USA, during the same show where the basic tracks for [[Roadhouse Garden]] and [[All Day, All Night]] were also recorded. When working on this further, it is unclear if, but plausible that they used the basic tracks recorded at [[First Avenue]] on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/June_7|7 June]], but ended up overdubbing almost every part.
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[[Wendy Melvoin]] and [[Lisa Coleman]] worked on the track further for three days, from [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/September_27|27]]-[[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/September_29|29 September 1984]] at [[Sunset Sound]], Hollywood, CA, USA (during the same sessions where they recorded string overdubs for [[Pop Life]]). Sessions with horn players and strings were organized and both [[Lisa Coleman]] and [[Jill Jones]] added a lead vocal to the track, replacing [[Prince]]'s vocals. [[Prince]] was not present for these sessions. Part of the strings that were recorded were later re-used for the opening of [[The Ladder]].
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'''Our Destiny''' is not known to have been considered for inclusion on [[Prince]]'s next album, [[Album: Around The World In A Day|Around The World In A Day]], or any other project at the time. It is likely that it was planned for inclusion on the [[Prince and the Revolution]] album [[Album: Roadhouse Garden|Roadhouse Garden]] album worked on in 1998-9, but that album remained unreleased.
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In 2017 the version with [[Lisa Coleman]]'s lead vocal was released on [[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'']] combined with [[Roadhouse Garden]] as '''Our Destiny / [[Roadhouse Garden]]'''. Of note is that this is the earliest recorded track to feature [[Lisa Coleman]] on lead vocals.
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{{RecordingLine|
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|date                      = late May or early June 1984 (assumed)
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|studio                    = [[Kiowa Trail Home Studio]], Chanhassen, MN, USA (assumed)
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|additional info          = Initial tracking of [[Prince]] solo version (assumed)
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|date                      = [[07_June 1984|7 June 1984]]
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|studio                    = [[First Avenue]], Minneapolis, MN, USA
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|additional info          = Live recording
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{{RecordingLine|
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/September_27|27 September 1984]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]], Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = brass overdubs
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/September_28|28 September 1984]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]], Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = string overdubs, [[Lisa Coleman]] lead vocal and mixing
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/September_29|29 September 1984]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]], Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = [[Jill Jones]] lead vocal and mixing
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'''initial live recording'''
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*[[Prince]] - lead vocals and guitar
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*[[Bobby Z.]] - drums  (unclear if audible on released version)
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*[[Brown Mark]] - bass guitar (unclear if audible on released version)
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*[[Wendy Melvoin]] - guitar (unclear if audible on released version) and background vocals
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*[[Lisa Coleman]] - keyboards (unclear if audible on released version) vocals
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*[[Dr. Fink]] - keyboards and background vocals (unclear if audible on released version)
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'''additional recording'''
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*[[Jill Jones]] lead vocals (alternate version)
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:Orchestral Players:
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:*[[Sid Page]] and [[Marcy Dicterow-Vaj]] - violins
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:*[[Denyse Buffum]] and [[Laury Woods]] - violas
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:*[[Suzie Katayama]], [[David Coleman]] - cello
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:*[[Tim Barr]] and [[Annette Atkinson]] - upright bass
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:*[[John Liotine]] - trumpet
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:*[[Brad Warnaar]] - french horn
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:*[[Steven Madaio]] - trumpet
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:*[[Dick Mitchell]] - sax / flute
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|released versions        =
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{{Songline|
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|1= '''Our Destiny / [[Roadhouse Garden]]'''
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|2= 6:25
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|3= [[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'']]
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|4= Studio
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|5=
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|1= '''Our Destiny'''
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|2= Studio, [[Prince]] solo
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|3= May, June, [[Kiowa Trail Home Studio]], Chanhassen, MN, USA
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|1= '''Our Destiny'''
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|2= Live
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|3= [[07 June 1984|7 June 1984, First Avenue, Minneapolis, MN, USA]], before overdubs
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|1= '''Our Destiny'''
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|2= Studio (likely based on live rec.)
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|3= Studio version with [[Jill Jones]] vocal and horn & string overdubs
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|first live appearance    = This track is not believed to have been performed live by [[Prince]].
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|performed regularly on    = none
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|performed occasionally in = none
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|trivia                    =
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|see also                  = [[Album: Purple Rain Deluxe|Purple Rain ''Deluxe'']] album
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* [[Film: Purple Rain |Purple Rain]] movie
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|references                = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]]''
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* ''Prince  and the Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983 and 1984'', Duane Tudahl (2017)
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|categories                = [[Category:1984]][[Category:2017]][[Category:Released Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Prince and the Revolution)]][[Category:Recorded 1984]]
 
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Revision as of 15:17, 13 May 2017

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Our Destiny

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Song details
Performer: Prince and the Revolution
Writer(s): Prince (assumed)
Producer(s): Prince (assumed)
Live Appearances
First and last live appearance:
Performed regularly on tour:
  • none
Performed occasionally in shows:

Our Destiny is an unreleased track, initially recorded during Prince and the Revolution's concert on 7 June 1984 at First Avenue in Minneapolis, MN, USA, during the same show where the basic tracks for Roadhouse Garden and All Day, All Night were also recorded. When working on this further, it is unclear if, but plausible that they used the basic tracks recorded at First Avenue on 7 June, but ended up overdubbing almost every part. Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman worked on the track further for three days, from 27-29 September 1984 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (during the same sessions where they recorded string overdubs for Pop Life). Sessions with horn players and strings were organized and both Lisa Coleman and Jill Jones added a lead vocal to the track, replacing Prince's vocals. Prince was not present for these sessions. Part of the strings that were recorded were later re-used for the opening of The Ladder.

Our Destiny is not known to have been considered for inclusion on Prince's next album, Around The World In A Day, or any other project at the time. It is likely that it was planned for inclusion on the Prince and the Revolution album Roadhouse Garden album worked on in 1998-9, but that album remained unreleased.

In 2017 the version with Lisa Coleman's lead vocal was released on Purple Rain Deluxe combined with Roadhouse Garden as Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden. Of note is that this is the earliest recorded track to feature Lisa Coleman on lead vocals.


Recording Information
Recording Sessions
Date Studio Additional info
late May or early June 1984 (assumed) Kiowa Trail Home Studio, Chanhassen, MN, USA (assumed) Initial tracking of Prince solo version (assumed)
7 June 1984 First Avenue, Minneapolis, MN, USA Live recording
27 September 1984 Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA brass overdubs
28 September 1984 Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA string overdubs, Lisa Coleman lead vocal and mixing
29 September 1984 Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA Jill Jones lead vocal and mixing
Recording Personnel

initial live recording

  • Prince - lead vocals and guitar
  • Bobby Z. - drums (unclear if audible on released version)
  • Brown Mark - bass guitar (unclear if audible on released version)
  • Wendy Melvoin - guitar (unclear if audible on released version) and background vocals
  • Lisa Coleman - keyboards (unclear if audible on released version) vocals
  • Dr. Fink - keyboards and background vocals (unclear if audible on released version)

additional recording

Orchestral Players:

Versions
Unreleased Versions
Title Version Additional Info
Our Destiny Studio, Prince solo May, June, Kiowa Trail Home Studio, Chanhassen, MN, USA
Our Destiny Live 7 June 1984, First Avenue, Minneapolis, MN, USA, before overdubs
Our Destiny Studio (likely based on live rec.) Studio version with Lisa Coleman vocal and horn & string overdubs
Our Destiny Studio (likely based on live rec.) Studio version with Jill Jones vocal and horn & string overdubs


Sampled, Referred to, Quoted in...
Title Length Released Version Additional info
The Ladder 5:26 Around The World In A Day Studio Samples string section originally done for Our Destiny
 
Additional Information

See also Trivia


References
Others Here With Us   < < < All Songs Unreleased Songs > > >   Overnight, Every Night