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|label = [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charly_Records Charly Records] | |label = [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charly_Records Charly Records] | ||
− | |studios = | + | |studios = Sound Palace Studios, New York, NY, USA; [[Sound 80]], Minneapolis, MN, USA; [[Cookhouse Studios]], Minneapolis, MN, USA, [[France Avenue Home Studio]], Edina, MN, USA; Blue Wave Recording Studio, St. Philip, Barbados. |
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− | |introduction = '''Symbolic Beginning''' is the | + | |introduction = '''Symbolic Beginning''' is the second collection of studio recordings by [[94 East]], the band name given to a number of tracks recorded by [[Pepé Willie]] and [[Prince]] with occasional other musicians (it is misleading to consider it an "album", as the tracks have been rearranged many times for reissues under different titles). |
− | The collection contained | + | The collection contained [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius - Featuring Prince]] and eleven previously-unreleased additional tracks. The liner notes of '''Symbolic Beginning''' states the following : |
− | + | ''"On [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]], the original recordings had been updated with additional instrumental parts and remixed. But now, we’ve added eight further songs – i.e ; the ''Cookhouse Five'' plus three additional sides – in their original form, with vocals included and no added overdubs. They were all digitally mastered and remixed to clean up any miscellaneous surface noise. "'' | |
− | The album was released without much promotion, and did not chart. | + | The only songs from the [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]] album that were included on '''Symbolic Beginning''' in their original form without overdubs are two versions of [[Games]] and a rehearsal version of [[Dance To The Music Of The World]]. The other additionnal tracks are [[If You See Me]] (vocal and instrumental versions), [[I’ll Always Love You]], [[Better Than You Think]] (vocal and instrumental versions), [[If We Don’t]] (recorded on December 1975, sessions at [[Cookhouse Studios]], Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA), [[You Can Be My Teacher]] and [[Love, Love, Love]] (recorded in [[France Avenue Home Studio]], Edina, Minnesota, USA). The original 1978 versions (without overdubs and remix) of [[Just Another Sucker]], [[If You Feel Like Dancin’]], [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Dance To The Music Of The World]] (recorded at [[Sound 80]]) and [[One Man Jam]] remain unreleased. |
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+ | '''Symbolic Beginning''' have been since re-released multiple times with different sequences and combinations of tracks by various labels through loose license agreements with small (mostly european) independent labels which take advantage of gray areas of copyrights to place these records in stores. Some had artworks with [[Prince]]’s name and image featured more prominently than [[94 East]] which led to a discussion between [[Prince]] and [[Pepé Willie]]. This compilations were released without [[Pepé Willie|Willie]]’s consent who sent cease-and-desist letters to those labels without much success. These reissues are not listed below being semi-official or bootlegs. Only the initial release and re-releases by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charly_Records Charly Records] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapper_Music Snapper Music] (one of Charly Records’ distributors) are considered as legit : | ||
+ | :*[[Album: Symbolic Beginning|Symbolic Beginning]] in 1995 (listed as the initial release below) | ||
+ | :*[[Album: Symbolic Beginning|The Early Years]] in 1999 | ||
+ | :*[[Album: Symbolic Beginning|One Man Jam]], credited to [[Prince]] with [[94 East]] and released in Europe in 2000 | ||
+ | :* various formats of [[Album: Symbolic Beginning|94 East Featuring Prince]] in 2016 | ||
+ | The five songs recorded at [[Cookhouse Studios]], Minneapolis, MN, USA included on '''Symbolic Beginning''' would be remixed by [[Dr. Fink|Matt "Dr." Fink]] in 2010 and re-released by [[Pepé Willie]] on his own label (Pepé Music Inc.) in 2011 as [[Album:_The_Cookhouse_Five|The Cookhouse Five]]. | ||
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+ | The collection was released without much promotion, and did not chart. | ||
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+ | [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]] and '''Symbolic Beginning''' were followed by [[Album:_94_East|94 East]], the third collection of songs recorded by [[94 East]] with two previously-unreleased songs with [[Prince]]: [[10:15]] and [[Fortune Teller]]. | ||
<!-------TRACK LIST -------> | <!-------TRACK LIST -------> | ||
|tracklisting = <small>The compact disc version is the original issue.</small> | |tracklisting = <small>The compact disc version is the original issue.</small> | ||
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# <b>[[One Man Jam]]</b> (6:13) <sup>3</sup> | # <b>[[One Man Jam]]</b> (6:13) <sup>3</sup> | ||
*Disc 2: | *Disc 2: | ||
− | # <b>[[If You See Me]]</b> (5:40) | + | # <b>[[If You See Me]]</b> (5:40) |
# <b>[[Games]] (Original Version)</b> (3:40) | # <b>[[Games]] (Original Version)</b> (3:40) | ||
# <b>[[I’ll Always Love You]]</b> (3:55) | # <b>[[I’ll Always Love You]]</b> (3:55) | ||
− | # <b>[[Better Than You Think]]</b> (4:30) | + | # <b>[[Better Than You Think]]</b> (4:30) |
# <b>[[If We Don’t]]</b> (4:09) | # <b>[[If We Don’t]]</b> (4:09) | ||
# <b>[[You Can Be My Teacher]]</b> (4:06) | # <b>[[You Can Be My Teacher]]</b> (4:06) | ||
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# <b>[[Games]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (3:40) | # <b>[[Games]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (3:40) | ||
# <b>[[Better Than You Think]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (4:31) | # <b>[[Better Than You Think]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (4:31) | ||
+ | <small> | ||
+ | References:<br> | ||
+ | '''2XCD by Charly Records<br> | ||
+ | UK: CPCD 8104-2<br> | ||
+ | Re-released in 1999 by Charly Records as '''The Early Years''' with different artwork<br> | ||
+ | :[[File:Earlyyearsreissue.jpeg|150px|border]]<br> | ||
+ | Ger : CDVAL 111-2 <br> | ||
+ | </small> | ||
+ | <br> | ||
|credits = All songs written by [[Pepé Willie]], except where noted. | |credits = All songs written by [[Pepé Willie]], except where noted. | ||
|* comment = <small> | |* comment = <small> | ||
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<sup>3</sup> Written by Ike Paige and Tony Silvester | <sup>3</sup> Written by Ike Paige and Tony Silvester | ||
</small> | </small> | ||
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− | :[[File: | + | |
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+ | <big><div style="color:#ab3e00">CD Reissue (2000)</div></big><br> | ||
+ | <b>One Man Jam</b><br> | ||
+ | Credited to [[Prince]] With [[94 East]]. | ||
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+ | :[[File:Onemanjamreissue.jpeg|150px|border]]<br> | ||
*Disc 1: | *Disc 1: | ||
− | # <b>[[Just Another Sucker]]</b> (5: | + | # <b>[[Just Another Sucker]]</b> (5:18) <sup>1</sup> |
− | # <b>[[ | + | # <b>[[One Man Jam]]</b> (6:14) <sup>3</sup> |
− | # <b>[[ | + | # <b>[[Dance To The Music Of The World]]</b> (5:07) |
− | # <b>[[ | + | # <b>[[Games]]</b> (5:00) |
− | # <b>[[ | + | # <b>[[If You Feel Like Dancin’]]</b> (7:09) |
− | # <b>[[ | + | # <b>[[If You See Me]]</b> (5:42) |
+ | # <b>[[Better Than You Think]]</b> (4:32) | ||
+ | # <b>[[Games]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (3:42) | ||
*Disc 2: | *Disc 2: | ||
− | # <b>[[ | + | # <b>[[Lovin’ Cup]]</b> (4:22) <sup>2</sup> |
− | + | # <b>[[Dance To The Music Of The World]] (Practice Session)</b> (6:05) | |
− | + | # <b>[[I’ll Always Love You]]</b> (3:54) | |
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− | # <b>[[Dance To The Music Of The World]] (Practice Session)</b> (6: | + | |
− | # <b>[[ | + | |
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# <b>[[Better Than You Think]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (4:31) | # <b>[[Better Than You Think]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (4:31) | ||
+ | # <b>[[If We Don’t]]</b> (4:11) | ||
+ | # <b>[[Games]] (Original Version)</b> (3:41) | ||
+ | # <b>[[You Can Be My Teacher]]</b> (4:08) | ||
+ | # <b>[[Love, Love, Love]]</b> (3:54) | ||
+ | # <b>[[If You See Me]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (5:39) | ||
+ | <small> | ||
+ | References:<br> | ||
+ | '''2XCD by Snapper Music<br> | ||
+ | UK: SMDCD410<br> | ||
+ | Re-released in 1999 by Charly Records as '''The Early Years''' with different artwork<br> | ||
+ | Ger : CDVAL 111-2 <br> | ||
+ | </small> | ||
<br> | <br> | ||
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− | < | + | <br> |
+ | <big><div style="color:#ab3e00">CD Reissue (2016)</div></big><br> | ||
− | :[[File: | + | <b>94 East Featuring Prince</b><br> |
− | + | Single CD re-release with instrumental versions of [[If You See Me]], [[Games]] and [[Better Than You Think]] missing. | |
− | # <b>[[Just Another Sucker]]</b> (5: | + | |
+ | :[[File:94EastFeaturing Prince2016.jpeg|150px|border]]<br> | ||
+ | # <b>[[Just Another Sucker]]</b> (5:17) <sup>1</sup> | ||
# <b>[[If You Feel Like Dancin’]]</b> (7:08) | # <b>[[If You Feel Like Dancin’]]</b> (7:08) | ||
# <b>[[Lovin’ Cup]]</b> (4:20) <sup>2</sup> | # <b>[[Lovin’ Cup]]</b> (4:20) <sup>2</sup> | ||
− | # <b>[[Games]]</b> ( | + | # <b>[[Games]] (Original Version)</b> (3:40) |
− | # <b>[[Dance To The Music Of The World]]</b> (5: | + | # <b>[[Dance To The Music Of The World]]</b> (5:07) |
− | # <b>[[One Man Jam]]</b> (6: | + | # <b>[[One Man Jam]]</b> (6:09) <sup>3</sup> |
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# <b>[[If You See Me]]</b> (5:40) | # <b>[[If You See Me]]</b> (5:40) | ||
− | # <b>[[I’ll Always Love You]]</b> (3: | + | # <b>[[I’ll Always Love You]]</b> (3:53) |
# <b>[[Better Than You Think]]</b> (4:30) | # <b>[[Better Than You Think]]</b> (4:30) | ||
# <b>[[If We Don’t]]</b> (4:09) | # <b>[[If We Don’t]]</b> (4:09) | ||
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# <b>[[Games]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (3:40) | # <b>[[Games]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (3:40) | ||
# <b>[[Better Than You Think]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (4:31) | # <b>[[Better Than You Think]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (4:31) | ||
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+ | <br> | ||
+ | <small> | ||
+ | References:<br> | ||
+ | '''Single CD by Charly Records<br> | ||
+ | UK: CHARLY F 840<br> | ||
+ | </small> | ||
+ | |||
+ | <!-------LP FORMATS -------> | ||
+ | |other format = LP | ||
+ | |content = <small>The vinyl long play format titled '''94 East Featuring Prince''' is a reissue by Charly Records of the first disc of '''Symbolic Beginning''' (previously released as [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]] by Hot Pink Records in 1986).</small> | ||
+ | :[[File:94EastFeaturingPrinceLP2016.jpeg|150px|border]]<br> | ||
+ | *Side 1: | ||
+ | # <b>[[If You Feel Like Dancin’]]</b> (7:11) | ||
+ | # <b>[[Lovin’ Cup]]</b> (4:21) <sup>1</sup> | ||
+ | # <b>[[Games]]</b> (5:01) | ||
+ | *Side 2: | ||
+ | # <b>[[Just Another Sucker]]</b> (5:21) <sup>2</sup> | ||
+ | # <b>[[Dance To The Music Of The World]]</b> (5:09) | ||
+ | # <b>[[One Man Jam]]</b> (6:17) <sup>3</sup> | ||
+ | <br> | ||
+ | <small> | ||
+ | References:<br> | ||
+ | '''LP by Charly Records<br> | ||
+ | UK: CHARLY L 219<br> | ||
+ | </small> | ||
+ | <br> | ||
+ | <big><div style="color:#ab3e00">Cassette</div></big><br> | ||
+ | *Side 1: | ||
+ | # <b>[[You Can Be My Teacher]]</b> (4:08) | ||
+ | # <b>[[Lovin’ Cup]]</b> (4:22) <sup>2</sup> | ||
+ | # <b>[[If You See Me]]</b> (5:42) | ||
+ | # <b>[[Games]]</b> (5:00) | ||
+ | # <b>[[Better Than You Think]]</b> (4:32) | ||
+ | # <b>[[I’ll Always Love You]]</b> (3:54) | ||
+ | *Side 2: | ||
+ | # <b>[[Dance To The Music Of The World]]</b> (5:07) | ||
+ | # <b>[[Love, Love, Love]]</b> (3:54) | ||
+ | # <b>[[One Man Jam]]</b> (6:14) <sup>3</sup> | ||
+ | # <b>[[If We Don’t]]</b> (4:11) | ||
+ | # <b>[[Just Another Sucker]]</b> (5:18) <sup>1</sup> | ||
+ | # <b>[[Games]] (Instrumental Version)</b> (3:42) | ||
+ | <br> | ||
+ | <small> | ||
+ | References:<br> | ||
+ | '''Cassette by Charly Records<br> | ||
+ | Indonesia: CPCD 8104-2<br> | ||
+ | </small> | ||
<br> | <br> | ||
<!-------PERSONNEL -------> | <!-------PERSONNEL -------> | ||
− | |musicians = [[Prince]] - guitar (all tracks), synthesizer on [[If You Feel Like Dancin’]], [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Just Another Sucker]], [[Dance To The Music Of The World]] | + | |musicians = [[Prince]] - guitar (all tracks), synthesizer on [[If You Feel Like Dancin’]], [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Just Another Sucker]], [[Dance To The Music Of The World]], [[One Man Jam]] and [[Love, Love, Love]], keyboards and drums on [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Just Another Sucker]] and [[Dance To The Music Of The World]], keyboards and clavinet on [[One Man Jam]], bass guitar and guitar on [[You Can Be My Teacher]] and [[Love, Love, Love]] |
− | *[[Pepé Willie]] - keyboards on [[If You Feel Like Dancin’]], acoustic guitar on [[Lovin’ Cup]], synthesizer on [[Games]] and [[One Man Jam]], percussion on [[Dance To The Music Of The World]] and [[One Man Jam]], vocals and guitar on [[If We Don’t]] | + | *[[Pepé Willie]] - keyboards on [[If You Feel Like Dancin’]], acoustic guitar on [[Lovin’ Cup]], synthesizer on [[Games]] and [[One Man Jam]], percussion on [[Dance To The Music Of The World]] and [[One Man Jam]], vocals and/or guitar on [[If You See Me]] (Vocal and Instrumental Versions), , [[Better Than You Think]] (Vocal and Instrumental versions), vocals and guitar on [[I’ll Always Love You]], [[If We Don’t]], guitar on [[You Can Be My Teacher]] |
*[[André Cymone]] - bass guitar on [[If You Feel Like Dancin’]], [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Just Another Sucker]], [[Dance To The Music Of The World]] and [[One Man Jam]] | *[[André Cymone]] - bass guitar on [[If You Feel Like Dancin’]], [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Just Another Sucker]], [[Dance To The Music Of The World]] and [[One Man Jam]] | ||
− | *Kristie Lazenberry - vocals on [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Just Another Sucker]] and [[If We Don’t]] | + | *Kristie Lazenberry - vocals on [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Just Another Sucker]], [[If You See Me]] (Vocal version), [[I’ll Always Love You]], [[Better Than You Think]] (Vocal version) and [[If We Don’t]] |
− | *Marcy Ingvoldstad - vocals on [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Just Another Sucker]] and [[If We Don’t]] | + | *Marcy Ingvoldstad - vocals on [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Just Another Sucker]], [[If You See Me]] (Vocal version), [[I’ll Always Love You]], [[Better Than You Think]] (Vocal version) and [[If We Don’t]] |
*Alvin Moody - bass guitar, guitar and keyboards on [[Games]], guitar on [[Just Another Sucker]] | *Alvin Moody - bass guitar, guitar and keyboards on [[Games]], guitar on [[Just Another Sucker]] | ||
− | *[[Dale Alexander]] - drums on [[If We Don’t]] | + | *Mark Sullivan - keyboards on [[Games]] (uncredited) |
− | *Wendell Thomas - bass guitar on [[If We Don’t]] | + | *[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Brailey Jerome "Bigfoot" Brailey] - drums on [[Games]] (uncredited) |
− | *Pierre Lewis - keyboards on [[If We Don’t]] | + | *Unidentified and uncredited horn player on [[Lovin’ Cup]] (presumably [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Myrick Don Myrick]) |
+ | *Unidentified and uncredited horn players on [[Games]] | ||
+ | *[[Dale Alexander]] - drums on [[If We Don’t]], [[Games]] (Original and Instrumental versions), [[If You See Me]] (Vocal and Instrumental versions), [[I’ll Always Love You]], [[Better Than You Think]] (Vocal and Instrumental versions) and [[If We Don’t]] | ||
+ | *Wendell Thomas - bass guitar on [[If We Don’t]], [[Games]] (Original and Instrumental versions), [[If You See Me]] (Vocal and Instrumental Versions), [[I’ll Always Love You]], [[Better Than You Think]] (Vocal and Instrumental versions) and [[If We Don’t]] | ||
+ | *Pierre Lewis - keyboards on [[If We Don’t]], [[Games]] (Original and Instrumental versions), [[I’ll Always Love You]], [[Better Than You Think]] (Vocal and Instrumental versions) and[[If We Don’t]] | ||
+ | *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Randazzo Teddy Randazzo] - mellotron on [[Better Than You Think]] (Vocal and Instrumental versions) | ||
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|production = [[Pepé Willie]] - co-producer | |production = [[Pepé Willie]] - co-producer | ||
*Tony Sylvester - co-producer | *Tony Sylvester - co-producer | ||
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|see also = | |see also = | ||
{{SeeAlso| | {{SeeAlso| | ||
− | |item1 = [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]]<br>( | + | |item1 = [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]]<br>(Album) |
|image1 = [[File:Minneapolisgenius album.jpg|60px|link=Album: Minneapolis Genius]] | |image1 = [[File:Minneapolisgenius album.jpg|60px|link=Album: Minneapolis Genius]] | ||
− | |item2 = [[Album: | + | |item2 = [[Album:_The_Cookhouse_Five|The Cookhouse Five]]<br>(Album) |
− | |image2 = [[File: | + | |image2 = [[File:Thecookhousefive album.jpg|60px|link=Album:_The_Cookhouse_Five]] |
}} | }} | ||
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|trivia = | |trivia = | ||
|alternative = | |alternative = | ||
− | |references =[[Book:_The_Vault| | + | |references =''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]]'' |
− | *[ | + | *''[https://www.amazon.com/If-You-See-Me-Six-Decade/dp/168134176X If You See Me: My Six-Decade Journey in Rock and Roll, Pepé Willie (2021)]'' |
+ | *[https://www.discogs.com/fr/94-East-Featuring-Prince-94-East-Featuring-Prince/master/668923?sort=label&sort_order=asc Discogs] | ||
|categories = [[Category:1995]][[Category: Related Artists]][[Category:Studio Albums (Related Artists)]] | |categories = [[Category:1995]][[Category: Related Artists]][[Category:Studio Albums (Related Artists)]] | ||
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