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|introduction              = '''17 (Penetration)''' (a.k.a. '''Penetration''') is an unreleased instrumental track recorded on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December_5|5 December 1988]] at [[Paisley Park Studios]] in Chanhassen, Minnesota (during the same session as [[18 (R U Legal Yet?)]], three days before [[19 (Jailbait)]]), during sessions for [[Madhouse]]'s third album [[Album: 24 (1989)|24]]. The track was included as the opening track on the album [[Album: 24 (1989)|24]] (the number in the track title sequentially follows [[Sixteen]], the final track on [[Madhouse]]'s second album [[Album: 16|16]]), before the album was abandoned.
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|introduction              = '''17 (Penetration)''' (a.k.a. '''Penetration''') is an unreleased instrumental track recorded on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December_5|5 December 1988]] at [[Paisley Park Studios]] in Chanhassen, Minnesota (during the same session as [[18 (R U Legal Yet?)]], three days before [[19 (Jailbait)]]), during sessions for [[Madhouse]]’s third album [[Album: 24 (1989)|24]]. The track was included as the opening track on the album [[Album: 24 (1989)|24]] (the number in the track title sequentially follows [[Sixteen]], the final track on [[Madhouse]]’s second album [[Album: 16|16]]), before the album was abandoned.
  
On [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 21|21 January 1991]], [[Prince]] submitted the track (now re-titled '''Penetration''') to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis], along with [[19 (Jailbait)|Jailbait]] and [[20 (A Girl And Her Puppy)|A Girl And Her Puppy]], for his consideration. [[Prince]] wanted [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] to record additional trumpet parts before sending them back. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] instead taught the three tracks to his band, and they recorded new versions of the tracks on 27 March 1991 in a German studio. The band also played them regularly on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis]' 1991 tour. After [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] died in 1991, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Records Warner Bros.] asked [[Prince]] to add some post-production to this track (as well as [[Can I Play With U?]], [[19 (Jailbait)|Jailbait]] and [[20 (A Girl And Her Puppy)|A Girl And Her Puppy]]) to include on his first posthumous album, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doo-Bop Doo-Bop], but [[Prince]] was not interested in contributing to tracks that he felt didn't show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] at his best.  
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On [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 21|21 January 1991]], [[Prince]] submitted the track (now re-titled '''Penetration''') to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis], along with [[19 (Jailbait)|Jailbait]] and [[20 (A Girl And Her Puppy)|A Girl And Her Puppy]], for his consideration. [[Prince]] wanted [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] to record additional trumpet parts before sending them back. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] instead taught the three tracks to his band, and they recorded new versions of the tracks on 27 March 1991 in a German studio. The band also played them regularly on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis]' 1991 tour. After [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] died in 1991, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Records Warner Bros.] asked [[Prince]] to add some post-production to this track (as well as [[Can I Play With U?]], [[19 (Jailbait)|Jailbait]] and [[20 (A Girl And Her Puppy)|A Girl And Her Puppy]]) to include on his first posthumous album, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doo-Bop Doo-Bop], but [[Prince]] was not interested in contributing to tracks that he felt didn’t show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] at his best.  
  
 
A live version of the track, recorded on 10 July 1991 at La Grande Halle de la Villette in Paris, France, was planned for release as the 71st track on a 2001 box-set of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis]' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Records Warner Bros.] work, entitled [http://www.miles-beyond.com/lastwordtracklist.htm The Last Word], but the track was not included on the eventual 2-disc 2010 release, titled ''Perfect Way''. As the original [[Madhouse]] version remains unreleased, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] versions are included here instead of being considered straight cover versions.
 
A live version of the track, recorded on 10 July 1991 at La Grande Halle de la Villette in Paris, France, was planned for release as the 71st track on a 2001 box-set of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis]' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Records Warner Bros.] work, entitled [http://www.miles-beyond.com/lastwordtracklist.htm The Last Word], but the track was not included on the eventual 2-disc 2010 release, titled ''Perfect Way''. As the original [[Madhouse]] version remains unreleased, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] versions are included here instead of being considered straight cover versions.

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17 (Penetration)

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Song details
Performer: Madhouse; Miles Davis
Writer(s): Prince
Producer(s): Prince; Miles Davis (assumed)
Live Appearances
First and last live appearance:
  • This track is not believed to have been performed live by Prince.
Performed regularly on tour:
  • none
Performed occasionally in shows:
  • none

17 (Penetration) (a.k.a. Penetration) is an unreleased instrumental track recorded on 5 December 1988 at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota (during the same session as 18 (R U Legal Yet?), three days before 19 (Jailbait)), during sessions for Madhouse’s third album 24. The track was included as the opening track on the album 24 (the number in the track title sequentially follows Sixteen, the final track on Madhouse’s second album 16), before the album was abandoned.

On 21 January 1991, Prince submitted the track (now re-titled Penetration) to Miles Davis, along with Jailbait and A Girl And Her Puppy, for his consideration. Prince wanted Davis to record additional trumpet parts before sending them back. Davis instead taught the three tracks to his band, and they recorded new versions of the tracks on 27 March 1991 in a German studio. The band also played them regularly on Davis' 1991 tour. After Davis died in 1991, Warner Bros. asked Prince to add some post-production to this track (as well as Can I Play With U?, Jailbait and A Girl And Her Puppy) to include on his first posthumous album, Doo-Bop, but Prince was not interested in contributing to tracks that he felt didn’t show Davis at his best.

A live version of the track, recorded on 10 July 1991 at La Grande Halle de la Villette in Paris, France, was planned for release as the 71st track on a 2001 box-set of Miles Davis' Warner Bros. work, entitled The Last Word, but the track was not included on the eventual 2-disc 2010 release, titled Perfect Way. As the original Madhouse version remains unreleased, the Miles Davis versions are included here instead of being considered straight cover versions.


Recording Information
Recording Sessions
Date Studio Additional info
5 December 1988 Paisley Park Studios,
Chanhassen, MN, USA
Basic tracking
27 March 1991 Bauer Studios (Studio 1),
Ludwigsburg, Germany
Basic tracking (Miles Davis version)
Recording Personnel

Madhouse version

  • Prince - all instruments, except where noted (assumed)
  • Eric Leeds - saxophone and flute


Miles Davis version


Versions
Unreleased Versions
Title Version Additional Info
17 (Penetration) Studio Recorded 5 December 1988
Penetration Studio Miles Davis version; recorded 27 March 1991
Penetration Live Miles Davis live version planned for The Last Word release; recorded 10 July 1991 at La Grande Halle de la Villette, Paris, France


 
Additional Information

See also Trivia

  • Although sharing a title (and original purpose as the opening track of a Madhouse album), the track is musically unrelated to the released Madhouse track titled 17.

References
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