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Song details
from the album Living Single from the album Diamonds And Pearls Super Deluxe Edition		single art for Pain
Performer:	Rosie Gaines; Chaka Khan; Prince
First Released:	30 September 1997 - Living Single album
Album(s):	Living Single Diamonds And Pearls Super Deluxe Edition
Writer(s):	Prince and D. Channsin Berry (incorrectly credited as N. Channison Berry)
Producer(s):	Prince; David Gamson
Live Appearances
First and last live appearance:
This track is not believed to have been performed live by Prince
Performed regularly on tour:
none
Performed occasionally in shows:
none

Pain by Chaka Khan is the fifth track on Living Single, the soundtrack album to the Fox TV series Living Single.

A preliminary version of the song titled Joy And Pain was written by D. Channsin Berry, for a future Rosie Gaines album. When Rosie Gaines joined Prince’s band and work on her Paisley Park Records album commenced, she showed Prince the song. He decided to record it and reworked the lyrics, changing it to Pain. The song was registered twice at the Ascap : as Pain (Non-rap version), credited to Prince and D. Channsin Berry and as Pain (Rap version) credited to Prince, D. Channsin Berry and Monie Love (for unknown reason, the song was registered at the Library Of Congress in April 1993 as being written by Prince, Rosie Gaines and Monie Love).

Prince’s take on the track was recorded on 6 July 1990 at Metropolis in London, England (on the same day as My Tender Heart and Streetwalker). Its copyright at ASCAP seems to suggest Monie Love recorded a rap on it, on this day or another day working in London.

And even when it was potentially considered for Rosie Gaines, Prince recorded his own lead vocal on it as well. It seems likely that

It was included as the fifth track on the 16 September 1993, configuration of Rosie Gaines’ Concrete Jungle, but was removed for later configurations. It was also included as the b-side on a planned single of My Tender Heart, where the writer’s credit was shared with Monie Love. Prince’s Gaines’s versions both contain lyrics (on the break before the bridge) that were not kept for Chaka Khan’s version.

Specific recording dates for Chaka Khan’s version are not known, but the track, produced by David Gamson, was recorded between 1993 and 1995 at Ocean Way Recording, Hollywood, California, for inclusion on her planned tenth album Dare You To Love Me, which was postponed and finally canceled. Khan’s version of the track features Me’Shell Ndegéocello on bass guitar (who worked with on two instrumentals - one of which was later re-recorded as Emale), and renowned saxophonist Joshua Redman.

In 2016, the day following Prince’s passing, his version was streamed on Rosie Gaines’s Facebook account. Rosie Gaines’ version was released a few weeks later as a stand-alone track through Amazon, iTunes and CD-Baby.

In 2023 Prince’s version was released as the third track of the Vault Tracks part 1 section of the Diamonds And Pearls Super Deluxe Edition.

Recording Information

Recording Sessions
Date	Studio	Additional info
6 July 1990	Metropolis, London, England	Tracking (Rosie Gaines version)
July 1990 (assumed	Metropolis, London, England (or other London studio)	overdubs, possibly with Monie Love rap
7 January 1990	Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA	Mix of Prince vocal version
Late 1992 - early 1993 (assumed)	Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA	Trumpet overdubs by Atlanta Bliss
1993-1995 (assumed)	Ocean Way Recording, Hollywood, CA, USA	Chaka Khan re-recording (no Prince input)
Recording Personnel
Chaka Khan version Chaka Khan - vocals Ndugu Chancler - drums David Gamson - drum programming and keyboard Me’Shell Ndegéocello - bass guitar Ernest Hamilton - acoustic bass guitar Wah Wah Watson - guitar Fred Gonzales Pena - fender rhodes and piano Luis Conte - percussion Joshua Redman - saxophone Original and Rosie Gaines version Rosie Gaines - vocals, keyboards Prince - all instruments, except where noted (assumed) Michael B. - drums (assumed) Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass (assumed) Dr. Fink - keyboards Atlanta Bliss – trumpet (only on Gaines version]

Versions

Released Versions

Title	Length	Released	Version	Additional info
Pain	5:24	Living Single soundtrack	Studio	Chaka Khan version
Pain	5:37	Pain single	Studio	Rosie Gaines version
Pain	5:57	Diamonds And Pearls Super Deluxe Edition	Studio	Prince version; recorded June 1990

Unreleased Versions

Title	Version	Additional Info
Pain (Rap version)	Studio	as the title suggests, this version may contain additional rap lyrics written by Monie Love

Additional Information

	See also	Trivia

	Living Single album Pain single My Tender Heart unreleased single Rosie Gaines Diamonds And Pearls Super Deluxe Edition	Artwork posted with the 2016 stream of Prince’s version:

	References
	The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004) Copyright(s): ASCAP Work ID: 460525477 / ISWC: T9098353334 ASCAP Work ID: 460525495 / ISWC: T3083209596 Library Of Congress - Registration Number: PAu001731963 / Date: 1993-04-05

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 {{song|
 |song name                 = Pain
-|album image               = [[File:Livingsingle album.jpg|100px|link=Album: Living Single]] <br><small> from the album [[Album: Living Single|Living Single]]</small>
+|album image               = [[File:Livingsingle album.jpg|100px|link=Album: Living Single]] <br><small> from the album [[Album: Living Single|Living Single]]</small> <br><br>[[Image:D&P_SDE.jpg|100px|left|link=Album: Diamonds And Pearls SuperDeluxe]] <br><small> from the album <br>[[Album: Diamonds And Pearls SuperDeluxe|Diamonds And Pearls ''Super Deluxe Edition'']]</small>
 |single image              = [[File:Pain_single.PNG|100px|link=Single: Pain]] <br><small> single art for [[Single: Pain|Pain]] </small>
-|performer                 = [[Rosie Gaines]]; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Khan Chaka Khan]
+|performer                 = [[Rosie Gaines]]; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Khan Chaka Khan]; [[Prince]]
 |first released            = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/September 30|30 September 1997]] - [[Album: Living Single|Living Single]] album
-|album(s)                  = [[Album: Living Single|Living Single]]
+|album(s)                  = [[Album: Living Single|Living Single]]<br>[[Album: Diamonds And Pearls SuperDeluxe|Diamonds And Pearls ''Super Deluxe Edition'']]
 |writer(s)                 = [[Prince]] and D. Channsin Berry (incorrectly credited as N. Channison Berry)
 |producer(s)               = [[Prince]]; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gamson David Gamson]
@@ Line 14: / Line 14: @@
 A preliminary version of the song titled '''Joy And Pain''' was written by D. Channsin Berry, for a future [[Rosie Gaines]] album. When [[Rosie Gaines]] joined [[Prince]]’s band and work on her [[Paisley Park Records]] album commenced, she showed [[Prince]] the song. He decided to record it and reworked the lyrics, changing it to '''Pain'''. The song was registered twice at the Ascap : as '''Pain (Non-rap version)''', credited to [[Prince]] and D. Channsin Berry and as '''Pain (Rap version)''' credited to [[Prince]], D. Channsin Berry and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monie_Love Monie Love] (for unknown reason, the song was registered at the [https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=6&ti=1,6&SL=B&DATE=1993&DTBL=E&DATE2=1993&PID=EtrSJmShkpSrJt5rCsOWhamX-_f5O&SEQ=20220714021257&SID=15 Library Of Congress] in April 1993 as being written by [[Prince]], [[Rosie Gaines]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monie_Love Monie Love]).
-While specific recording dates are not known, basic tracking took place in June 1990 in London, England (during the same set of sessions that produced [[Daddy Pop]], [[Schoolyard]] and [[Walk Don’t Walk]], but mostly focused on [[Rosie Gaines]]’ first solo album, recording [[Hold Me]], [[My Tender Heart]], [[Streetwalker]], [[In The Name Of Love]] and [[Turn Your Lights Down Low]]); [[Prince]] worked in three different London studios, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Studios Olympic Studios], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townhouse_Studios Townhouse Studios] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_Group#The_Studios Metropolis Studios] and it is not known which studio was used for this song. It was included as the fifth track on the 16 September 1993, configuration of [[Album: Concrete Jungle|Concrete Jungle]], but was removed for later configurations. It was also included as the b-side on a planned single of [[Single: My Tender Heart|My Tender Heart]], where the writer’s credit was shared with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monie_Love Monie Love]. [[Prince]]’s [[Rosie Gaines|Gaines]]’s versions both contain lyrics (on the break before the bridge) that were not kept for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Khan Chaka Khan]’s version.
+[[Prince]]’s take on the track was recorded on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/July 6|6 July 1990]] at [[Metropolis]] in London, England (on the same day as [[My Tender Heart]] and [[Streetwalker]]).  Its copyright at ASCAP seems to suggest [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monie_Love Monie Love] recorded a rap on it, on this day or another day working in London.
-Specific recording dates for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Khan Chaka Khan]’s version are not known, but the track, produced by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gamson David Gamson], was recorded between 1993 and 1995 at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Way_Recording Ocean Way Recording], Hollywood, California, for inclusion on her planned tenth album ''Dare You To Love Me'', which was postponed and finally canceled. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Khan Khan]’s version of the track features [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me%27Shell_Ndeg%C3%A9ocello Me’Shell Ndegéocello] on bass guitar (who worked with [[File: SymbolSmallerBlue.png|link=Alias: Symbol]] on two [[Emale|instrumentals]] - one of which was later re-recorded as [[Emale]]), and renowned saxophonist [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Redman Joshua Redman].
+And even when it was potentially considered for [[Rosie Gaines]], [[Prince]] recorded his own lead vocal on it as well. It seems likely that
-In 2016, the day following [[Prince]]’s passing, his version was streamed on [[Rosie Gaines]]’s [https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=1265190410176571&external_log_id=f62391c0-c2f0-4861-8560-4eeb8a0f3d82&q=Rosie%20Gaines%20pain Facebook account]. It is not considered as an official release as it was most likely done without the consent of the heirs. [[Rosie Gaines]]’ version was released a few weeks later as a [[Single: Pain|stand-alone track]] through Amazon, iTunes and CD-Baby.
+It was included as the fifth track on the 16 September 1993, configuration of [[Rosie Gaines]]’ [[Album: Concrete Jungle|Concrete Jungle]], but was removed for later configurations. It was also included as the b-side on a planned single of [[Single: My Tender Heart|My Tender Heart]], where the writer’s credit was shared with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monie_Love Monie Love]. [[Prince]]’s [[Rosie Gaines|Gaines]]’s versions both contain lyrics (on the break before the bridge) that were not kept for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Khan Chaka Khan]’s version.
+Specific recording dates for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Khan Chaka Khan]’s version are not known, but the track, produced by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gamson David Gamson], was recorded between 1993 and 1995 at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Way_Recording Ocean Way Recording], Hollywood, California, for inclusion on her planned tenth album ''Dare You To Love Me'', which was postponed and finally canceled. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Khan Khan]’s version of the track features [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me’Shell_Ndeg%C3%A9ocello Me’Shell Ndegéocello] on bass guitar (who worked with [[File: SymbolSmallerBlue.png|link=Alias: Symbol]] on two [[Emale|instrumentals]] - one of which was later re-recorded as [[Emale]]), and renowned saxophonist [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Redman Joshua Redman].
+In 2016, the day following [[Prince]]’s passing, his version was streamed on [[Rosie Gaines]]’s [https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=1265190410176571&external_log_id=f62391c0-c2f0-4861-8560-4eeb8a0f3d82&q=Rosie%20Gaines%20pain Facebook account]. [[Rosie Gaines]]’ version was released a few weeks later as a [[Single: Pain|stand-alone track]] through Amazon, iTunes and CD-Baby.
+In 2023 [[Prince]]’s version was released as the third track of the '''Vault Tracks part 1''' section of the [[Album: Diamonds And Pearls SuperDeluxe|Diamonds And Pearls ''Super Deluxe Edition'']].
 |recording info            =
 {{RecordingLine|
-|date                      = June 1990
+|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/July 6|6 July 1990]]
-|studio                    = [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Studios Olympic Studios],<br> London, England;<br>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townhouse_Studios Townhouse Studios]<br> London, England<br> or<br>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_Group#The_Studios Metropolis Studios],<br> London, England
+|studio                    = [[Metropolis]],<br>London, England
-|additional info           = Basic tracking ([[Rosie Gaines]] version)
+|additional info           = Tracking ([[Rosie Gaines]] version)
+}}
+{{RecordingLine|
+|date                      = July 1990 (assumed
+|studio                    = [[Metropolis]],<br>London, England (or other London studio)
+|additional info           = overdubs, possibly with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monie_Love Monie Love] rap
+}}
+{{RecordingLine|
+|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 7|7 January 1990]]
+|studio                    = [[Paisley Park Studios]],<br>Chanhassen, MN, USA
+|additional info           = Mix of [[Prince]] vocal version
 }}
 {{RecordingLine|
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 *Ndugu Chancler - drums
 *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gamson David Gamson] - drum programming and keyboard
-*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me%27Shell_Ndeg%C3%A9ocello Me’Shell Ndegéocello] - bass guitar
+*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me’Shell_Ndeg%C3%A9ocello Me’Shell Ndegéocello] - bass guitar
 *Ernest Hamilton - acoustic bass guitar
 *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wah_Wah_Watson Wah Wah Watson] - guitar
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 *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Redman Joshua Redman] - saxophone
 <br>
-'''Rosie Gaines version'''
+'''Original and Rosie Gaines version'''
 *[[Rosie Gaines]] - vocals, keyboards
 *[[Prince]] - all instruments, except where noted (assumed)
 *[[Michael B.]] - drums (assumed)
-*[[Sonny T.]] - bass guitar (assumed)
+*[[Levi Seacer, Jr.]] - bass (assumed)
-*[[Levi Seacer, Jr.]] - guitar (assumed)
+*[[Dr. Fink]] - keyboards
-*[[Tommy Barbarella]] - keyboards (assumed)
+*[[Atlanta Bliss]] – trumpet (only on Gaines version]
-*[[Atlanta Bliss]] - trumpet
 |released versions         =
 {{Songchart|
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 |4= Studio
 |5= [[Rosie Gaines]] version
+}}
+{{Songline|
+|1= '''Pain'''
+|2= 5:57
+|3= [[Album: Diamonds And Pearls SuperDeluxe|Diamonds And Pearls ''Super Deluxe Edition'']]
+|4= Studio
+|5= [[Prince]] version; recorded June 1990
 }}
 }}
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 {{Unreleased|
 |line=
-{{Unreleasedline|
-|1= '''Pain'''
-|2= Studio
-|3= version w/ [[Prince]] vocals; recorded June 1990
-}}
 {{Unreleasedline|
 |1= '''Pain (Rap version)'''
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 *[[Single: My Tender Heart|My Tender Heart]] unreleased single
 *[[Rosie Gaines]]
+*[[Album: Diamonds And Pearls SuperDeluxe|Diamonds And Pearls ''Super Deluxe Edition'']]
 |references                = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]] ''
 *<b>Copyright(s)</b>: [https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/workID/460525477 ASCAP Work ID: 460525477 / ISWC: T9098353334]
 *[https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/workID/460525495 ASCAP Work ID: 460525495 / ISWC: T3083209596]
 *''[https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=6&ti=1,6&SL=B&DATE=1993&DTBL=E&DATE2=1993&PID=EtrSJmShkpSrJt5rCsOWhamX-_f5O&SEQ=20220714021257&SID=15 Library Of Congress - Registration Number: PAu001731963 / Date: 1993-04-05]
-|categories                = [[Category:1997]][[Category:Recorded 1990]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Associated Artists)]][[Category:Released Songs (Associated Artists)]]
+|categories                = [[Category:1997]] [[Category:2023]] [[Category:Recorded 1990]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Associated Artists)]][[Category:Released Songs (Associated Artists)]][[Category:Released Songs (Prince)]]
 }}

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