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|introduction          = '''Symbolic Beginning''' is a collection of studio recordings by [[94 East]], the band name given to a number of tracks recorded by [[Pepé Willie]] and [[Prince]] with occasional other musicians (it is misleading to consider it an "album", as the tracks have been rearranged many times for reissues under different titles).
|introduction          = '''Symbolic Beginning''' is the second collection of studio recordings by [[94 East]], the band name given to a number of tracks recorded by [[Pepé Willie]] and [[Prince]] with occasional other musicians (it is misleading to consider it an "album", as the tracks have been rearranged many times for reissues under different titles).


The collection contained [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius - Featuring Prince]] and eleven previously-unreleased additional tracks. The liner notes of '''Symbolic Beginning''' states the following :  
The collection contained [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius - Featuring Prince]] and eleven previously-unreleased additional tracks. The liner notes of '''Symbolic Beginning''' states the following :  


''"On [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]], the original recordings had been updated with additional intrumental parts and remixed. But now, we’ve added eight further songs – i.e ; the ‘’Cookhouse Five’’ plus three additional sides – in their original form, with vocals included and no added overdubs. They were all digitally mastered and remixed to clean up any miscellaneous surface noise. "''
''"On [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]], the original recordings had been updated with additional intrumental parts and remixed. But now, we’ve added eight further songs – i.e ; the ''Cookhouse Five'' plus three additional sides – in their original form, with vocals included and no added overdubs. They were all digitally mastered and remixed to clean up any miscellaneous surface noise. "''


The only songs from the [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]] album that were included on '''Symbolic Beginning''' in their original form without overdubs are two versions of [[Games]] and a rehearsal version of [[Dance To The Music Of The World]]. The other additionnal tracks are [[If You See Me]] (vocal and instrumental versions), [[I’ll Always Love You]], [[Better Than You Think]] (vocal and instrumental versions), [[If We Don’t]] (recorded on December 1975, sessions at [[Cookhouse Studios]], Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA), [[You Can Be My Teacher]] and [[Love, Love, Love]] (recorded in [[France Avenue Home Studio]], Edina, Minnesota, USA). The original 1978 versions (without overdubs and remix) of [[Just Another Sucker]], [[If You Feel Like Dancin’]], [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Dance To The Music Of The World]] (recorded at [[Sound 80]]) and [[One Man Jam]] remain unreleased.
The only songs from the [[Album: Minneapolis Genius|Minneapolis Genius]] album that were included on '''Symbolic Beginning''' in their original form without overdubs are two versions of [[Games]] and a rehearsal version of [[Dance To The Music Of The World]]. The other additionnal tracks are [[If You See Me]] (vocal and instrumental versions), [[I’ll Always Love You]], [[Better Than You Think]] (vocal and instrumental versions), [[If We Don’t]] (recorded on December 1975, sessions at [[Cookhouse Studios]], Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA), [[You Can Be My Teacher]] and [[Love, Love, Love]] (recorded in [[France Avenue Home Studio]], Edina, Minnesota, USA). The original 1978 versions (without overdubs and remix) of [[Just Another Sucker]], [[If You Feel Like Dancin’]], [[Lovin’ Cup]], [[Dance To The Music Of The World]] (recorded at [[Sound 80]]) and [[One Man Jam]] remain unreleased.
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Revision as of 20:11, 7 September 2022

1994: 1-800 New Funk ◄ All Prince Albums All Related Artists Albums ► 1995: Closer Than Close
Symbolic Beginning
Symbolic Beginning (Front Cover)

Album details

Released: 16 May 1995
Length: 33:03 / 49:46
Label(s): Charly Records
Studio(s): Sound Palace Studios, New York, NY, USA; Sound 80, Minneapolis, MN, USA; Cookhouse Studios, Minneapolis, MN, USA, France Avenue Home Studio, Edina, MN, USA; Blue Wave Recording Studio, St. Philip, Barbados.

Charts, Certifications & Awards

Charts
This album has not charted in the USA
Certifications
This album has not received any certifications in the USA
Awards
This album has not received any awards in the USA

Singles released

  • None

See also

Minneapolis Genius
(Album) 		The Cookhouse Five
(Album)
Symbolic Beginning is the second collection of studio recordings by 94 East, the band name given to a number of tracks recorded by Pepé Willie and Prince with occasional other musicians (it is misleading to consider it an "album", as the tracks have been rearranged many times for reissues under different titles).

The collection contained Minneapolis Genius - Featuring Prince and eleven previously-unreleased additional tracks. The liner notes of Symbolic Beginning states the following :

"On Minneapolis Genius, the original recordings had been updated with additional intrumental parts and remixed. But now, we’ve added eight further songs – i.e ; the Cookhouse Five plus three additional sides – in their original form, with vocals included and no added overdubs. They were all digitally mastered and remixed to clean up any miscellaneous surface noise. "

The only songs from the Minneapolis Genius album that were included on Symbolic Beginning in their original form without overdubs are two versions of Games and a rehearsal version of Dance To The Music Of The World. The other additionnal tracks are If You See Me (vocal and instrumental versions), I’ll Always Love You, Better Than You Think (vocal and instrumental versions), If We Don’t (recorded on December 1975, sessions at Cookhouse Studios, Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA), You Can Be My Teacher and Love, Love, Love (recorded in France Avenue Home Studio, Edina, Minnesota, USA). The original 1978 versions (without overdubs and remix) of Just Another Sucker, If You Feel Like Dancin’, Lovin’ Cup, Dance To The Music Of The World (recorded at Sound 80) and One Man Jam remain unreleased.

Symbolic Beginning have been since re-released multiple times with different sequences and combinations of tracks by various labels through loose license agreements with small (mostly european) independent labels which take advantage of gray areas of copyrights to place these records in stores. Some had artworks with Prince’s name and image featured more prominently than 94 East which led to a discussion between Prince and Pepé Willie. This compilations were released without Willie’s consent who sent cease-and-desist letters to those labels without much success. These reissues are not listed below being semi-official or bootlegs. Only the initial release and re-releases by Charly Records and Snapper Music (one of Charly Records’ distributors) are considered as legit :

The five songs recorded at Cookhouse Studios, Minneapolis, MN, USA included on Symbolic Beginning would be remixed by Matt "Dr." Fink in 2010 and re-released by Pepé Willie on his own label (Pepé Music Inc.) in 2011 as The Cookhouse Five.

The collection was released without much promotion, and did not chart.

Minneapolis Genius and Symbolic Beginning were followed by 94 East, the third collection of songs recorded by 94 East with two previously-unreleased songs with Prince: 10:15 and Fortune Teller.



Track listing
CD LP

The compact disc version is the original issue.

  • Disc 1:
  1. Just Another Sucker (5:21) 1
  2. If You Feel Like Dancin’ (7:08)
  3. Lovin’ Cup (4:20) 2
  4. Games (4:59)
  5. Dance To The Music Of The World (5:06)
  6. One Man Jam (6:13) 3
  • Disc 2:
  1. If You See Me (5:40)
  2. Games (Original Version) (3:40)
  3. I’ll Always Love You (3:55)
  4. Better Than You Think (4:30)
  5. If We Don’t (4:09)
  6. You Can Be My Teacher (4:06)
  7. Love, Love, Love (3:53)
  8. Dance To The Music Of The World (Practice Session) (6:04)
  9. If You See Me (Instrumental Version) (5:39)
  10. Games (Instrumental Version) (3:40)
  11. Better Than You Think (Instrumental Version) (4:31)

References:
2XCD by Charly Records
 UK: CPCD 8104-2
Re-released in 1999 by Charly Records as The Early Years with different artwork


Ger : CDVAL 111-2

The vinyl long play format titled 94 East Featuring Prince is a reissue by Charly Records of the first disc of Symbolic Beginning (previously released as Minneapolis Genius by Hot Pink Records in 1986).


  • Side 1:
  1. If You Feel Like Dancin’ (7:11)
  2. Lovin’ Cup (4:21) 1
  3. Games (5:01)
  • Side 2:
  1. Just Another Sucker (5:21) 2
  2. Dance To The Music Of The World (5:09)
  3. One Man Jam (6:17) 3


References:
LP by Charly Records
 UK: CHARLY L 219

Cassette

  • Side 1:
  1. You Can Be My Teacher (4:08)
  2. Lovin’ Cup (4:22) 2
  3. If You See Me (5:42)
  4. Games (5:00)
  5. Better Than You Think (4:32)
  6. I’ll Always Love You (3:54)
  • Side 2:
  1. Dance To The Music Of The World (5:07)
  2. Love, Love, Love (3:54)
  3. One Man Jam (6:14) 3
  4. If We Don’t (4:11)
  5. Just Another Sucker (5:18) 1
  6. Games (Instrumental Version) (3:42)


References:
Cassette by Charly Records
 Indonesia: CPCD 8104-2

All songs written by Pepé Willie, except where noted.
1 Written by Prince and Pepé Willie
2 Written by Ike Paige and Pepé Willie
3 Written by Ike Paige and Tony Silvester



CD Reissue (2000)

One Man Jam
Credited to Prince With 94 East.


  • Disc 1:
  1. Just Another Sucker (5:18) 1
  2. One Man Jam (6:14) 3
  3. Dance To The Music Of The World (5:07)
  4. Games (5:00)
  5. If You Feel Like Dancin’ (7:09)
  6. If You See Me (5:42)
  7. Better Than You Think (4:32)
  8. Games (Instrumental Version) (3:42)
  • Disc 2:
  1. Lovin’ Cup (4:22) 2
  2. Dance To The Music Of The World (Practice Session) (6:05)
  3. I’ll Always Love You (3:54)
  4. Better Than You Think (Instrumental Version) (4:31)
  5. If We Don’t (4:11)
  6. Games (Original Version) (3:41)
  7. You Can Be My Teacher (4:08)
  8. Love, Love, Love (3:54)
  9. If You See Me (Instrumental Version) (5:39)

References:
2XCD by Snapper Music
 UK: SMDCD410
Re-released in 1999 by Charly Records as The Early Years with different artwork
Ger : CDVAL 111-2


CD Reissue (2016)

94 East Featuring Prince
Single CD re-release with instrumental versions of If You See Me, Games and Better Than You Think missing.


  1. Just Another Sucker (5:17) 1
  2. If You Feel Like Dancin’ (7:08)
  3. Lovin’ Cup (4:20) 2
  4. Games (Original Version) (3:40)
  5. Dance To The Music Of The World (5:07)
  6. One Man Jam (6:09) 3
  7. If You See Me (5:40)
  8. I’ll Always Love You (3:53)
  9. Better Than You Think (4:30)
  10. If We Don’t (4:09)
  11. You Can Be My Teacher (4:06)
  12. Love, Love, Love (3:53)
  13. Dance To The Music Of The World (Practice Session) (6:04)
  14. If You See Me (Instrumental Version) (5:39)
  15. Games (Instrumental Version) (3:40)
  16. Better Than You Think (Instrumental Version) (4:31)


References:
Single CD by Charly Records
 UK: CHARLY F 840



Personnel
Musicians


Production
  • Pepé Willie - co-producer
  • Tony Sylvester - co-producer
  • Other production credits needed


Thanks
  • none.



Releases
LP, CD, Cassettes and Other versions
Country Format Cat. Number Comments Front Back Label 1 Label 2
This section is under construction

Variants, Special Editions and Reissues
Country Format Cat. Number Comments Front Back Label 1 Label 2
This section is under construction
 
Additional Information
Promotion (at time of release) Trivia
  • The album was released without much promotion, and did not chart.
References
1994
1-800 New Funk 		All Albums All Related Artists Albums 1995
Closer Than Close
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