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|producer(s) = [[Prince]] (credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]]) | |producer(s) = [[Prince]] (credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]]) | ||
|previous song = [[Never Really Fell Out Of Love With You]] | |previous song = [[Never Really Fell Out Of Love With You]] | ||
| − | |next song = [[New | + | |next song = [[New_Position_(Vanity_6)|New Position]] |
|introduction = '''New Position''' is the second track on [[Prince]]’s eighth album [[Album: Parade|Parade]], the third to be credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]]. The track also is also played in [[Prince]]’s second feature film, [[Film: Under The Cherry Moon|Under The Cherry Moon]]. | |introduction = '''New Position''' is the second track on [[Prince]]’s eighth album [[Album: Parade|Parade]], the third to be credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]]. The track also is also played in [[Prince]]’s second feature film, [[Film: Under The Cherry Moon|Under The Cherry Moon]]. | ||
| − | Basic tracking took place in Spring-Summer 1982 at [[Prince]]’s [[Kiowa Trail Home Studio]] in Chanhassen, Minnesota, along with several other tracks that would re-appear over the next several years. This original 1982 recording remains unreleased. The track was re-recorded on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 17|17 April 1985]] at [[Sunset Sound]] in Hollywood, California, with [[Prince]] recording the drum track in sequence of [[Christopher Tracy’s Parade|Wendy’s Parade]], [[New Position]], [[I Wonder U]] and [[Under The Cherry Moon]], all in one take. He then layered other instruments over all four tracks. [[Clare Fischer]] arranged and recorded orchestration for the song at some point in mid-late 1985 at Monterey Sound Studios in Glendale, California. but [[Prince]] preferred the track without orchestration, and chose to use the track without orchestration for the final release. A short portion of the discarded | + | Basic tracking took place in Spring-Summer 1982 at [[Prince]]’s [[Kiowa Trail Home Studio]] in Chanhassen, Minnesota, along with several other tracks that would re-appear over the next several years. This original 1982 recording remains unreleased. [[Prince]] also recorded a song called [[New Position (Vanity 6)|New Position]] for [[Vanity 6]] around the same time, but both songs are different despite having the same name. |
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| + | The track was re-recorded on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 17|17 April 1985]] at [[Sunset Sound]] in Hollywood, California, with [[Prince]] recording the drum track in sequence of [[Christopher Tracy’s Parade|Wendy’s Parade]], [[New Position]], [[I Wonder U]] and [[Under The Cherry Moon]], all in one take. He then layered other instruments over all four tracks. [[Clare Fischer]] arranged and recorded orchestration for the song at some point in mid-late 1985 at Monterey Sound Studios in Glendale, California. but [[Prince]] preferred the track without orchestration, and chose to use the track without orchestration for the final release. A short portion of the discarded [[Clare Fischer|Fischer]] arrangement was later sampled by [[Prince]] in [[Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic]]. | ||
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| + | [[Wendy Melvoin|Wendy]] and [[Lisa Coleman|Lisa]] created a slower variation of the song called '''Soul Sister''' in November 1985, by adding overdubs, new lyrics. The re-written chorus contains a chant of ''Big ol’ soul sister'' that was sung occasionally by [[Prince and the Revolution]] in concerts between 1984 and 1986. | ||
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|recording info = | |recording info = | ||
{{RecordingLine| | {{RecordingLine| | ||
|date = Spring-Summer 1982 | |date = Spring-Summer 1982 | ||
|studio = [[Kiowa Trail Home Studio]],<br>Chanhassen, MN, USA | |studio = [[Kiowa Trail Home Studio]],<br>Chanhassen, MN, USA | ||
| − | |additional info = | + | |additional info = Tracking |
| + | }} | ||
| + | {{RecordingLine| | ||
| + | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 17|17 April 1985]]-[[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 19|19]] & [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 23|23 April 1985]] | ||
| + | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]] Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
| + | |additional info = Re-recording, overdubs, mix (17th); overdubs (18th), overdubs, mix (19th), overdubs (23rd) | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{RecordingLine| | {{RecordingLine| | ||
| − | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/ | + | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/May 1|1 May 1985]] |
|studio = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
| − | |additional info = | + | |additional info = Mix (likely) |
}} | }} | ||
{{RecordingLine| | {{RecordingLine| | ||
| − | |date = | + | |date = July 1985 (assumed) |
|studio = Monterey Sound Studios, <br>Glendale, CA, USA | |studio = Monterey Sound Studios, <br>Glendale, CA, USA | ||
|additional info = Orchestra recording by [[Clare Fischer]] | |additional info = Orchestra recording by [[Clare Fischer]] | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | {{RecordingLine| | ||
| + | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/November 11|11]] or [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/November 12|12 November 1985]] (estimate) | ||
| + | |studio = [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advision_Studios Advision Studios],<br>London, England | ||
| + | |additional info = Overdubs (guitar) and reworking with ([[Wendy Melvoin|Wendy]] & [[Lisa Coleman|Lisa]] (including creating '''Soul Sister''' version) | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | {{RecordingLine| | ||
| + | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/November_18|18 November 1985]] (estimate) | ||
| + | |studio = Pumacrest Mobile Recording Unit (from Advision Studios)<br>in Nice, France | ||
| + | |additional info = Mix ([[Wendy Melvoin|Wendy]] & [[Lisa Coleman|Lisa]], probably with [[Prince]]) | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | {{RecordingLine| | ||
| + | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December 16|16 December 1985]] | ||
| + | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
| + | |additional info = Strings only mix and additional work on '''Soul Sister''' | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | {{RecordingLine| | ||
| + | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 27|27 January 1986]] | ||
| + | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
| + | |additional info = Orchestra only mix for [[Film: Under The Cherry Moon|Under The Cherry Moon]] ([[Susan Rogers]], sans [[Prince]]) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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*[[Lisa Coleman]] - background vocals | *[[Lisa Coleman]] - background vocals | ||
*[[Wendy Melvoin]] - background vocals | *[[Wendy Melvoin]] - background vocals | ||
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'''Unreleased 1985 version''' | '''Unreleased 1985 version''' | ||
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{{Songline| | {{Songline| | ||
|1= '''New Position''' | |1= '''New Position''' | ||
| − | |2= 2:21 | + | |2= .2:21 |
|3= [[Album: Parade|Parade]] | |3= [[Album: Parade|Parade]] | ||
|4= Studio | |4= Studio | ||
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{{Songline| | {{Songline| | ||
|1= '''New Position''' | |1= '''New Position''' | ||
| − | |2= 2:07 | + | |2= .2:07 |
|3= [[NPG Ahdio Show 4|NPG Ahdio Show # 4]] mp3 (not available as a separate track) | |3= [[NPG Ahdio Show 4|NPG Ahdio Show # 4]] mp3 (not available as a separate track) | ||
|4= Live | |4= Live | ||
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|2= Studio | |2= Studio | ||
|3= 1985 recording with unused orchestral overdubs | |3= 1985 recording with unused orchestral overdubs | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
| + | |1= '''Soul Sister''' | ||
| + | |2= Studio | ||
| + | |3= with additional recording and lyrics by [[Wendy Melvoin|Wendy]] and [[Lisa Coleman|Lisa]] | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
| + | |1= '''Soul Sister''' | ||
| + | |2= Studio | ||
| + | |3= Instrumental version | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
| + | |1= '''New Position''' | ||
| + | |2= Studio | ||
| + | |3= Strings only mix | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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* [[Under The Cherry Moon cues]] | * [[Under The Cherry Moon cues]] | ||
|references = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]]'' | |references = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]]'' | ||
| − | |categories = [[Category:1986]][[Category: | + | * ''[https://www.duanetudahl.com/prince-book Prince and the Parade/Sign O’ The Times Era Studio Sessions 1985 and 1986, Duane Tudahl (2021)]'' |
| + | |categories = [[Category:1986]][[Category:Recorded 1982]][[Category:Recorded 1985]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Prince and the Revolution)]][[Category:Released Songs (Prince)]] | ||
}} | }} | ||
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