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|introduction              = '''New Position''' is the second track on [[Prince]]’s eighth album [[Album: Parade|Parade]], the third to be credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]]. The track also is also played in [[Prince]]’s second feature film, [[Film: Under The Cherry Moon|Under The Cherry Moon]].
 
|introduction              = '''New Position''' is the second track on [[Prince]]’s eighth album [[Album: Parade|Parade]], the third to be credited to [[Prince and the Revolution]]. The track also is also played in [[Prince]]’s second feature film, [[Film: Under The Cherry Moon|Under The Cherry Moon]].
  
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Basic tracking took place in Spring-Summer 1982 at [[Prince]]’s [[Kiowa Trail Home Studio]] in Chanhassen, Minnesota, along with several other tracks that would re-appear over the next several years. This original 1982 recording remains unreleased. The track was re-recorded on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 17|17 April 1985]] at [[Sunset Sound]] in Hollywood, California, with [[Prince]] recording the drum track in sequence of [[Christopher Tracy’s Parade|Wendy’s Parade]], [[New Position]], [[I Wonder U]] and [[Under The Cherry Moon]], all in one take. He then layered other instruments over all four tracks. [[Clare Fischer]] arranged and recorded orchestration for the song at some point in mid-late 1985 at Monterey Sound Studios in Glendale, California. but [[Prince]] preferred the track without orchestration, and chose to use the track without orchestration for the final release. A short portion of the discarded [[Clare Fischer|Fischer]] arrangement was later sampled by [[Prince]] in [[Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic]].
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Basic tracking took place in Spring-Summer 1982 at [[Prince]]’s [[Kiowa Trail Home Studio]] in Chanhassen, Minnesota, along with several other tracks that would re-appear over the next several years. This original 1982 recording remains unreleased. [[Prince]] also recorded a song called [[New Position (Vanity 6)|New Position]] for [[Vanity 6]] around the same time, but both songs are different despite having the same name.
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The track was re-recorded on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 17|17 April 1985]] at [[Sunset Sound]] in Hollywood, California, with [[Prince]] recording the drum track in sequence of [[Christopher Tracy’s Parade|Wendy’s Parade]], [[New Position]], [[I Wonder U]] and [[Under The Cherry Moon]], all in one take. He then layered other instruments over all four tracks. [[Clare Fischer]] arranged and recorded orchestration for the song at some point in mid-late 1985 at Monterey Sound Studios in Glendale, California. but [[Prince]] preferred the track without orchestration, and chose to use the track without orchestration for the final release. A short portion of the discarded [[Clare Fischer|Fischer]] arrangement was later sampled by [[Prince]] in [[Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic]].
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[[Wendy Melvoin|Wendy]] and [[Lisa Coleman|Lisa]] created a slower variation of the song called '''Soul Sister''' in November 1985, by  adding overdubs, new lyrics. The re-written chorus contains a chant of ''Big ol’ soul sister'' that was sung by occasionally sung by [[Prince and the Revolution]] in concerts between 1984 and 1986.
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 17|17 April 1985]] - [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 19|19 April 1985]]
 
|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
 
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/April 23|23 April 1985]]
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|studio                    = Monterey Sound Studios, <br>Glendale, CA, USA
 
|studio                    = Monterey Sound Studios, <br>Glendale, CA, USA
 
|additional info          = Orchestra recording by [[Clare Fischer]]
 
|additional info          = Orchestra recording by [[Clare Fischer]]
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/November 11|11 November 1985]] (estimate)
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|studio                    = [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advision_Studios Advision Studios],<br>London, England
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|additional info          = Overdubs and reworking by [[Wendy Melvoin]] and [[Lisa Coleman]] ('''Soul Sister''' version)
 
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|3= [[NPG Ahdio Show 4|NPG Ahdio Show # 4]] mp3 (not available as a separate track)
 
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Revision as of 10:48, 7 August 2021

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New Position
Parade.jpg
from the album Parade
Song details
Performer: Prince and the Revolution
First Released: 31 March 1986 - Parade album
Album(s): Parade
Writer(s): Prince (credited to Prince and the Revolution)
Producer(s): Prince (credited to Prince and the Revolution)
Live Appearances
First and last live appearance:
Performed regularly on tour:
Performed occasionally in shows:

New Position is the second track on Prince’s eighth album Parade, the third to be credited to Prince and the Revolution. The track also is also played in Prince’s second feature film, Under The Cherry Moon.

Basic tracking took place in Spring-Summer 1982 at Prince’s Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota, along with several other tracks that would re-appear over the next several years. This original 1982 recording remains unreleased. Prince also recorded a song called New Position for Vanity 6 around the same time, but both songs are different despite having the same name.

The track was re-recorded on 17 April 1985 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California, with Prince recording the drum track in sequence of Wendy’s Parade, New Position, I Wonder U and Under The Cherry Moon, all in one take. He then layered other instruments over all four tracks. Clare Fischer arranged and recorded orchestration for the song at some point in mid-late 1985 at Monterey Sound Studios in Glendale, California. but Prince preferred the track without orchestration, and chose to use the track without orchestration for the final release. A short portion of the discarded Fischer arrangement was later sampled by Prince in Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic.

Wendy and Lisa created a slower variation of the song called Soul Sister in November 1985, by adding overdubs, new lyrics. The re-written chorus contains a chant of Big ol’ soul sister that was sung by occasionally sung by Prince and the Revolution in concerts between 1984 and 1986.


Recording Information
Recording Sessions
Date Studio Additional info
Spring-Summer 1982 Kiowa Trail Home Studio,
Chanhassen, MN, USA 		Basic tracking
17 April 1985 - 19 April 1985 Sunset Sound,
Hollywood, CA, USA 		Re-recording (17th), overdubs (18th), overdubs and mix (19th)
23 April 1985 Sunset Sound,
Hollywood, CA, USA 		Overdubs
Mid-late 1985 Monterey Sound Studios,
Glendale, CA, USA 		Orchestra recording by Clare Fischer
11 November 1985 (estimate) Advision Studios,
London, England 		Overdubs and reworking by Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman (Soul Sister version)
Recording Personnel

Parade version


Unreleased 1982 version

  • Prince - all vocals and instruments (assumed)


Unreleased 1985 version

Orchestral Players:
  • Violins - Isabelle Daskoff, Francine Walsh, Mari Botnik, Pam Gates, Janice Gower, Karen Jones, Betty Moor, Irma Neumann, Assa Drori, Bill Hymanson, Oscar Chasow, Ron Clark, Henry Ferber, Erne Granat, Ed Green, Bill Hybel, Reggie Hill, Pat Johnson, Don Palmer, Sheldon Sanov, Joe Schonbrun, Terry Schonbrun and Harold Wolf
  • Violas - Pam Goldsmith, Margot Maclaine, Carol Mukagawa, Myer Bello, Alan Deverich, Norman Forrest, Alan Harshman, Jorge Moraga and David Stock
  • Cellos - Jim Arkatoff, Ray Kelley, Ray Kramer and Fred Seykora
  • Basses - Chuck Dominico and Arni Egilsson.
  • Woodwinds - Gene Cipriano, Don Ashworth, John Clarke, Dave Edwards, Gary Foster, Jim Kanter, John Lowe, Dick Mitchell, Jack Nimitz, Joe Soldo and Bob Tricarico
  • Trumpets - Ray Brown, Rich Cooper, Bob Findley, Larry Ford, Bob O’Donnell and Al Vizutti
  • Trombones - Garnett Brown, Charles Loper, Morris Repass and Bill Watrous
  • French Horns - Marni Johnson, David Duke, Joe Myer, Brian O’Connor, Calvin Smith and Jim Thatcher
  • Tuba - Tommy Johnson
  • Tympani and percussion - Brent Fischer

Versions
Released Versions
Title Length Released Version Additional info
New Position .2:21 Parade Studio
New Position .2:07 NPG Ahdio Show # 4 mp3 (not available as a separate track) Live 31 August 1986, Alsterdorfer Sporthalle, Hamburg, West Germany
Video Versions
Title Length Released Version Additional info
New Position T.B.C. Live concert TV broadcast Live 7 June 1986, Cobo Arena, Detroit, MI, USA
Sampled, Referred to, Quoted in...
Title Length Released Version Additional info
Mary On Drums - Planet Rock 0:47 Under The Cherry Moon DVD Performance see Under The Cherry Moon cues for details
Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic 4:18 Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic
 Studio See Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic for more details
Unreleased Versions
Title Version Additional Info
New Position Studio Original 1982 recording
New Position Studio 1985 recording with unused orchestral overdubs
Soul Sister Studio with additional recordings and lyrics by Wendy and Lisa
 
Additional Information
See also Trivia
References
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