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|song name = Rough | |song name = Rough | ||
− | |performer = [[Prince]]; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ | + | |performer = [[Prince]]; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O’Neal Alexander O’Neal]; [[Jill Jones]] |
|writer(s) = [[Prince]] (assumed) | |writer(s) = [[Prince]] (assumed) | ||
|producer(s) = [[Prince]] (assumed) | |producer(s) = [[Prince]] (assumed) | ||
|previous song = [[Rootie Kazootie]] | |previous song = [[Rootie Kazootie]] | ||
|next song = [[Round And Round]] | |next song = [[Round And Round]] | ||
− | |introduction = '''Rough''' is an unreleased song originally recorded in May - June 1980 at [[Prince]] | + | |introduction = '''Rough''' (also listed as '''Tough''', '''Too Tough''', and '''Too Rough''') is an unreleased song originally recorded in May - June 1980 at [[Prince]]’s [[North Arm Drive Home Studio]] in Orono, Minnesota during recording sessions for the [[Album: Dirty Mind|Dirty Mind]] album. |
− | At some point between June 1980 and April 1981, he recorded a new version with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ | + | At some point between June 1980 and April 1981, he recorded a new version with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O’Neal Alexander O’Neal], but recording details are not known. |
− | In | + | In 1985, the song was considered for [[The Family]], but <!--no new recording was done on the track at the time, as it--> seemed inappropriate for the group’s style. It was later considered for [[Jill Jones]]' first album [[Album: Jill Jones|Jill Jones]], and her vocals were recorded on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 8|8 January 1986]], along with saxophone overdubs by [[Eric Leeds]] (four days before recording [[Conversation Piece]] and [[Last Heart]]). |
− | It was rejected from the album, however, and [[Prince]] later offered it to Joyce Kennedy of the band [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ | + | It was rejected from the album, however, and [[Prince]] later offered it to Joyce Kennedy of the band [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother’s_Finest Mother’s Finest], who turned the song down without recording a version. |
The lyrics describe a tough girl, who will take your money, your self respect and your personality. "She keeps her money in a garter belt. Next to a .38. If you get the chance to take her out. You better not be late." | The lyrics describe a tough girl, who will take your money, your self respect and your personality. "She keeps her money in a garter belt. Next to a .38. If you get the chance to take her out. You better not be late." | ||
− | The song was copyrighted on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March 25|25 March 1985]] as '''Rough''', | + | The song was copyrighted on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March 25|25 March 1985]] as '''Rough''', but it is commonly incorrectly referred to as ''Too Rough'', and sometimes ''Tough'' or ''Too Tough'' as well. That list title however is a [[Too Tough|different]], otherwise unrelated song. |
<br> | <br> | ||
|recording info = | |recording info = | ||
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|date = May - June 1980 | |date = May - June 1980 | ||
|studio = [[North Arm Drive Home Studio]],<br>Orono, MN, USA | |studio = [[North Arm Drive Home Studio]],<br>Orono, MN, USA | ||
− | |additional info = | + | |additional info = Tracking |
}} | }} | ||
{{RecordingLine| | {{RecordingLine| | ||
|date = June 1980 - April 1981 | |date = June 1980 - April 1981 | ||
|studio = Studio information needed | |studio = Studio information needed | ||
− | |additional info = Additional recording with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ | + | |additional info = Additional recording with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O’Neal Alexander O’Neal] |
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{RecordingLine| | ||
+ | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March 14|14 March 1985]] | ||
+ | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]], Studio 1 (likely), <br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
+ | |additional info = Vocal overdubs by [[Prince]] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{RecordingLine| | ||
+ | |date = March 1985 (likely) | ||
+ | |studio = Studio information needed | ||
+ | |additional info = Vocal overdubs with [[Paul Peterson|St. Paul]] and [[Susannah Melvoin]] (unconfirmed) | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{RecordingLine| | ||
+ | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/June 25|2 June 1985]] | ||
+ | |studio = [[The Complex Studios]], <br>Los Angeles, CA, USA | ||
+ | |additional info = Overdubs, mix (session by [[Wendy Melvoin| Wendy]] & [[Lisa Coleman|Lisa]], sans [[Prince]]) | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{RecordingLine| | ||
+ | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December 11|11 December 1985]] (estimate) | ||
+ | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
+ | |additional info = Vocal overdubs by [[Jill Jones]] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{RecordingLine| | ||
+ | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December 20|20 December 1985]] | ||
+ | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
+ | |additional info = Mix (as '''Too Rough''') | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{RecordingLine| | ||
+ | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December 20|20 December 1985]] | ||
+ | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]]- Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
+ | |additional info = Mix (as '''Too Rough''') | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{RecordingLine| | ||
+ | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 7|7 January 1986]] | ||
+ | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
+ | |additional info = Overdubs, mix (as '''Too Rough''') | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{RecordingLine| | {{RecordingLine| | ||
|date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 8|8 January 1986]] | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 8|8 January 1986]] | ||
− | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | + | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA |
− | |additional info = | + | |additional info = Mix, overdubs Saxophone overdubs by [[Eric Leeds]] (as '''Too Rough''') |
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{RecordingLine| | ||
+ | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/February 21|21 February 1986]] | ||
+ | |studio = [[Sunset Sound]]- Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA | ||
+ | |additional info = Remix (as '''Too Rough''') | ||
}} | }} | ||
|recording personnel = | |recording personnel = | ||
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*[[Prince]] - all vocals and instruments (assumed) | *[[Prince]] - all vocals and instruments (assumed) | ||
<br> | <br> | ||
− | '''Alexander | + | '''Alexander O’Neil version''' |
− | *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ | + | *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O’Neal Alexander O’Neal] - vocals |
*[[Prince]] - all other vocals and instruments (assumed) | *[[Prince]] - all other vocals and instruments (assumed) | ||
+ | <br> | ||
+ | ''' The Family version''' (possible) | ||
+ | *[[Paul Peterson|St. Paul]] - vocals | ||
+ | * [[Susannah Melvoin]] - vocals (assumed) | ||
+ | *[[Prince]] - all other and instruments (assumed) | ||
<br> | <br> | ||
'''Jill Jones version''' | '''Jill Jones version''' | ||
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|1= '''Rough''' | |1= '''Rough''' | ||
|2= Studio | |2= Studio | ||
− | |3= 1980-1 recording with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ | + | |3= 1980-1 recording with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O’Neal Alexander O’Neal] vocals |
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
+ | |1= '''Rough''' | ||
+ | |2= Studio | ||
+ | |3= 1985 version with vocals overdubs by [[Prince]] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
+ | |1= '''Rough''' | ||
+ | |2= Studio | ||
+ | |3= Possible version with [[The Family]] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
+ | |1= '''Rough''' | ||
+ | |2= Studio | ||
+ | |3= Version after Wendy & Lisa overdubs | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{Unreleasedline| | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
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|performed regularly on = none | |performed regularly on = none | ||
|performed occasionally in = none | |performed occasionally in = none | ||
− | |trivia = | + | |trivia = |
|see also = [[Unreleased Songs]] | |see also = [[Unreleased Songs]] | ||
*[[Jill Jones]] | *[[Jill Jones]] | ||
|references = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]]'' | |references = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]]'' | ||
− | |categories = [[Category:1980]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category: | + | * ''[[Book:_The_Beautiful_Ones|The Beautiful Ones]]'' (2019) |
+ | * ''[https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538114623/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 Prince and the Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983 and 1984 (Expanded Edition, paperback), Duane Tudahl (2018)]'' | ||
+ | * ''[https://www.duanetudahl.com/prince-book Prince and the Parade/Sign O’ The Times Era Studio Sessions 1985 and 1986, Duane Tudahl (2021)]'' | ||
+ | |categories = [[Category:1980]][[Category:Recorded 1980]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Associated Artists)]][[Category:Unreleased Songs]] | ||
}} | }} |
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