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|introduction              = '''Rough''' (also listed as '''Tough''', '''Too Tough''', and ''Too Rough'''] is an unreleased song originally recorded in May - June 1980 at [[Prince]]'s [[North Arm Drive Home Studio]] in Orono, Minnesota during recording sessions for the [[Album: Dirty Mind|Dirty Mind]] album.  
  
 
At some point between June 1980 and April 1981, he recorded a new version with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O'Neal Alexander O'Neal], but recording details are not known.  
 
At some point between June 1980 and April 1981, he recorded a new version with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O'Neal Alexander O'Neal], but recording details are not known.  
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|additional info          = Additional recording with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O'Neal Alexander O'Neal]
 
|additional info          = Additional recording with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O'Neal Alexander O'Neal]
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|date                      = 1984/1985
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|studio                    = Studio information needed
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|additional info          = Vocal overdubs with [[Paul Peterson|St. Paul]]
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/March 14|14 March 1985]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]], Studio 1 (likely), <br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/June 25|2 June 1985]]
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|studio                    = [[The Complex Studios]], <br>Los Angeles, California), CA, USA
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|additional info          = Overdubs, mix (session by [[Wendy Melvoin| Wendy]] & [[Lisa Coleman|Lisa]], sans [[Prince]])
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December 11|11 December 1985]] (estimate)
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = Vocal overdubs by [[Jill Jones]]
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December 20|20 December 1985]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = Mix (as '''Too Rough''')
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December 20|20 December 1985]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]]- Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = Mix (as '''Too Rough''')
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 7|7 January 1986]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = Overdubs, mix (as '''Too Rough''')
 
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 8|8 January 1986]]
 
|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 8|8 January 1986]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]],<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]] - Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = Vocal overdubs by [[Jill Jones]] and saxophone overdubs by [[Eric Leeds]]
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|additional info          = Mix, overdubs Saxophone overdubs by [[Eric Leeds]] (as '''Too Rough''')
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|date                      = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/February 21|21 February 21 1986]]
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|studio                    = [[Sunset Sound]]- Studio 3,<br>Hollywood, CA, USA
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|additional info          = Remix (as '''Too Rough''')
 
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O'Neal Alexander O'Neal] - vocals
 
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_O'Neal Alexander O'Neal] - vocals
 
*[[Prince]] - all other vocals and instruments (assumed)
 
*[[Prince]] - all other vocals and instruments (assumed)
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''' The Family version'''
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*[[Paul Peterson|St. Paul]] - vocals
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* [[Susannah Melvoin]] - vocals (assumed)
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*[[Prince]] - all other  and instruments (assumed)
 
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'''Jill Jones version'''
 
'''Jill Jones version'''

Revision as of 19:21, 14 August 2021

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Song details
Performer: Prince; Alexander O'Neal; Jill Jones
Writer(s): Prince (assumed)
Producer(s): Prince (assumed)
Live Appearances
First and last live appearance:
Performed regularly on tour:
  • none
Performed occasionally in shows:
  • none

'Rough (also listed as Tough, Too Tough, and Too Rough] is an unreleased song originally recorded in May - June 1980 at Prince's North Arm Drive Home Studio in Orono, Minnesota during recording sessions for the Dirty Mind album.

At some point between June 1980 and April 1981, he recorded a new version with Alexander O'Neal, but recording details are not known.

In 1984, the song was considered for The Family, but no new recording was done on the track at the time, as it seemed inappropriate for the group's style. It was later considered for Jill Jones' first album Jill Jones, and her vocals were recorded on 8 January 1986, along with saxophone overdubs by Eric Leeds (four days before recording Conversation Piece and Last Heart).

It was rejected from the album, however, and Prince later offered it to Joyce Kennedy of the band Mother's Finest, who turned the song down without recording a version.

The lyrics describe a tough girl, who will take your money, your self respect and your personality. "She keeps her money in a garter belt. Next to a .38. If you get the chance to take her out. You better not be late."

The song was copyrighted on 25 March 1985 as Rough, but it is commonly incorrectly referred to as Too Rough, and sometimes Tough or Too Tough as well. That list title however is a different, otherwise unrelated song.


Recording Information
Recording Sessions
Date Studio Additional info
May - June 1980 North Arm Drive Home Studio,
Orono, MN, USA 		Basic tracking
June 1980 - April 1981 Studio information needed Additional recording with Alexander O'Neal
1984/1985 Studio information needed Vocal overdubs with St. Paul
14 March 1985 Sunset Sound, Studio 1 (likely),
Hollywood, CA, USA
2 June 1985 The Complex Studios,
Los Angeles, California), CA, USA 		Overdubs, mix (session by Wendy & Lisa, sans Prince)
11 December 1985 (estimate) Sunset Sound - Studio 3,
Hollywood, CA, USA 		Vocal overdubs by Jill Jones
20 December 1985 Sunset Sound - Studio 3,
Hollywood, CA, USA 		Mix (as Too Rough)
20 December 1985 Sunset Sound- Studio 3,
Hollywood, CA, USA 		Mix (as Too Rough)
7 January 1986 Sunset Sound - Studio 3,
Hollywood, CA, USA 		Overdubs, mix (as Too Rough)
8 January 1986 Sunset Sound - Studio 3,
Hollywood, CA, USA 		Mix, overdubs Saxophone overdubs by Eric Leeds (as Too Rough)
21 February 21 1986 Sunset Sound- Studio 3,
Hollywood, CA, USA 		Remix (as Too Rough)
Recording Personnel

Prince version

  • Prince - all vocals and instruments (assumed)


Alexander O'Neil version


The Family version


Jill Jones version


Versions
Unreleased Versions
Title Version Additional Info
Rough Studio Original 1980 recording with Prince vocals
Rough Studio 1980-1 recording with Alexander O'Neal vocals
Rough Studio 1986 recording with Jill Jones vocals


 
Additional Information
See also Trivia
References
Rootie Kazootie   < < < All Songs Unreleased Songs > > >   Round And Round
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