Difference between revisions of "Penetration"
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− | |song name = 17 (Penetration) | + | |song name = Penetration <small> (a.k.a 17 (Penetration)) </small> |
− | |single image = [[File:Unreleasedsong.jpg|border|link=Unreleased Songs]] | + | |single image = [[File:Unreleasedsong.jpg|border|link=Unreleased Songs]] |
− | |performer = | + | |performer = [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis]; [[Madhouse]] |
|writer(s) = [[Prince]] | |writer(s) = [[Prince]] | ||
− | | | + | |first released = 1991 (TV Broadcast – exact date needed) |
− | |previous song = [[ | + | |album(s) = [[Album: Merci Miles!, Live At Vienne|Merci Miles!, Live At Vienne]] (to be released in june 2021) |
− | |next song = [[ | + | |producer(s) = [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] ; [[Prince]] (assumed) |
− | |introduction = ''' | + | |previous song = [[Pearls B4 The Swine]] |
+ | |next song = [[People Without]] | ||
+ | |introduction = '''Penetration''' is an instrumental track originally recorded as '''17 (Penetration)''' on [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December_5|5 December 1988]] at [[Paisley Park Studios]] in Chanhassen, Minnesota (during the same session as [[18 (R U Legal Yet?)]], three days before [[19 (Jailbait)]]), during sessions for [[Madhouse]]’s third album [[Album: 24 (1989)|24]]. The track was included as the opening track on the album [[Album: 24 (1989)|24]] (the number in the track title sequentially follows [[Sixteen]], the final track on [[Madhouse]]’s second album [[Album: 16|16]]), before the album was abandoned. | ||
− | On [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 21|21 January 1991]], [[Prince]] submitted the track (now re-titled '''Penetration''') to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis], along with [[19 (Jailbait)|Jailbait]] and [[20 (A Girl And Her Puppy)|A Girl And Her Puppy]], for his consideration. [[Prince]] wanted [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] to record additional trumpet parts before sending them back. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] instead taught the three tracks to his band, and they recorded new versions of the tracks on 27 March 1991 | + | On [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/January 21|21 January 1991]], [[Prince]] submitted the track (now re-titled '''Penetration''') to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis], along with [[19 (Jailbait)|Jailbait]] and [[20 (A Girl And Her Puppy)|A Girl And Her Puppy]], for his consideration. [[Prince]] wanted [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] to record additional trumpet parts before sending them back. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] instead taught the three tracks to his band, and they recorded new versions of the tracks on 27-28 March 1991 at Bauer Studios (Studio 1), Ludwigsburg, Germany. The band also played them regularly on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis]' 1991 tour. |
− | A live version of the track, recorded on 10 July 1991 at La Grande Halle de la Villette in Paris, France, was planned for release as the 71st track on a 2001 box-set of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis]' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Records Warner Bros.] work, entitled [http://www.miles-beyond.com/lastwordtracklist.htm The Last Word], but the track was not included on the eventual 2-disc 2010 release, titled ''Perfect Way''. | + | After [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] died in 1991, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Records Warner Bros.] asked [[Prince]] to add some post-production to this track (as well as [[Can I Play With U?]], [[19 (Jailbait)|Jailbait]] and [[20 (A Girl And Her Puppy)|A Girl And Her Puppy]]) to include on his first posthumous album, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doo-Bop Doo-Bop], but [[Prince]] was not interested in contributing to tracks that he felt didn’t show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Davis] at his best. |
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+ | A live version of the track, recorded on 10 July 1991 at La Grande Halle de la Villette in Paris, France (the video of which was broadcast on some channels around the work in the nineties), was planned for release as the 71st track on a 2001 box-set of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis]' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Records Warner Bros.] work, entitled [http://www.miles-beyond.com/lastwordtracklist.htm The Last Word], but the track was not included on the eventual 2-disc 2010 release, titled ''Perfect Way''. | ||
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+ | In 2021, a live version recorded on July 1st 1991 at Théâtre antique in Vienne, France is planned to be included as the fourth track on the live album [[Album: Merci Miles!, Live At Vienne|Merci Miles!, Live At Vienne]]. This page will be updated after the release of the album. | ||
|recording info = | |recording info = | ||
{{RecordingLine| | {{RecordingLine| | ||
|date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December_5|5 December 1988]] | |date = [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December_5|5 December 1988]] | ||
|studio = [[Paisley Park Studios]],<br>Chanhassen, MN, USA | |studio = [[Paisley Park Studios]],<br>Chanhassen, MN, USA | ||
− | |additional info = Basic tracking | + | |additional info = Basic tracking (as '''17 (Penetration)''') |
}} | }} | ||
{{RecordingLine| | {{RecordingLine| | ||
− | |date = 27 March 1991 | + | |date = 27-28 March 1991 |
|studio = Bauer Studios (Studio 1),<br>Ludwigsburg, Germany | |studio = Bauer Studios (Studio 1),<br>Ludwigsburg, Germany | ||
|additional info = Basic tracking ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] version) | |additional info = Basic tracking ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] version) | ||
}} | }} | ||
|recording personnel = | |recording personnel = | ||
− | + | '''Miles Davis versions''' | |
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− | '''Miles Davis | + | |
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] - trumpet | *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] - trumpet | ||
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Garrett Kenny Garrett] - alto saxophone | *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Garrett Kenny Garrett] - alto saxophone | ||
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deron_Johnson_(musician) Deron Johnson] - synth | *[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deron_Johnson_(musician) Deron Johnson] - synth | ||
*Richard Patterson - bass guitar | *Richard Patterson - bass guitar | ||
− | *Ricky Wellman | + | *Ricky Wellman – drums |
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− | {{ | + | '''Unreleased Madhouse version''' |
+ | *[[Prince]] - all instruments, except where noted (assumed) | ||
+ | *[[Eric Leeds]] - saxophone and flute | ||
+ | |released versions = | ||
+ | {{Songchart| | ||
|line = | |line = | ||
+ | {{Songline| | ||
+ | |1= '''17 (Penetration)''' | ||
+ | |2= n/a | ||
+ | |3= n/a | ||
+ | |4= n/a | ||
+ | |5= There have been no audio-only releases of this track. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | |broadcasts, streaming = | ||
+ | {{SongBroadcast| | ||
+ | |broadcasts, streaming = | ||
+ | {{Songchart| | ||
+ | |line = | ||
+ | {{Songline| | ||
+ | |1= '''Penetration''' | ||
+ | |2= T.B.C. | ||
+ | |3= Live concert TV broadcast | ||
+ | |4= Live | ||
+ | |5= recorded 10 July 1991 at La Grande Halle de la Villette, Paris, France | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | |unreleased versions = | ||
+ | {{SongUnreleased| | ||
+ | |unreleased versions = | ||
+ | {{Unreleased| | ||
+ | |line= | ||
{{Unreleasedline| | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
|1= '''17 (Penetration)''' | |1= '''17 (Penetration)''' | ||
|2= Studio | |2= Studio | ||
− | |3= | + | |3= [[Madhouse]] version ; recorded [[Prince_Vault:Selected_anniversaries/December_5|5 December 1988]]) |
}} | }} | ||
{{Unreleasedline| | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
|1= '''Penetration''' | |1= '''Penetration''' | ||
|2= Studio | |2= Studio | ||
− | |3= [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] version; recorded 27 March 1991 | + | |3= [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] version; recorded 27 March 1991 (First take) |
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
+ | |1= '''Penetration''' | ||
+ | |2= Studio | ||
+ | |3= [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] version; recorded 27-28 March 1991 (Second take) | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
+ | |1= '''Penetration''' | ||
+ | |2= Studio | ||
+ | |3= [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] version; recorded 27-28 March 1991 (Third Take) | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{Unreleasedline| | {{Unreleasedline| | ||
|1= '''Penetration''' | |1= '''Penetration''' | ||
|2= Live | |2= Live | ||
− | |3= | + | |3= [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis Miles Davis] live version planned for [http://www.miles-beyond.com/lastwordtracklist.htm The Last Word] release; recorded 10 July 1991 at La Grande Halle de la Villette, Paris, France |
+ | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
|video versions = | |video versions = | ||
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|sampled in = | |sampled in = | ||
|first live appearance = This track is not believed to have been performed live by [[Prince]]. | |first live appearance = This track is not believed to have been performed live by [[Prince]]. | ||
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|performed occasionally in = none | |performed occasionally in = none | ||
|trivia = Although sharing a title (and original purpose as the opening track of a [[Madhouse]] album), the track is musically unrelated to the released [[Madhouse]] track titled [[17]]. | |trivia = Although sharing a title (and original purpose as the opening track of a [[Madhouse]] album), the track is musically unrelated to the released [[Madhouse]] track titled [[17]]. | ||
− | |see also = [[ | + | |see also = [[Madhouse]] |
− | *[[Madhouse]] | + | *[[Madhouse]]: Unreleased [[Album: 24 (1989)|24]] album |
|references = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]] '' | |references = ''[[Book:_The_Vault|The Vault: The Definitive Guide to the Musical World of Prince (2004)]] '' | ||
* [http://www.miles-beyond.com/lastwordtracklist.htm The Last Word] | * [http://www.miles-beyond.com/lastwordtracklist.htm The Last Word] | ||
− | |categories = [[Category:1988]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Associated Artists)]][[Category: | + | |categories = [[Category:1988]] [[Category:1991]][[Category:Songs (Prince)]][[Category:Songs (Associated Artists)]][[Category:Recorded 1988]][[Category:Recorded 1991]] |
}} | }} |
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